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Herr Brian Tabor Special user Oklahoma City 729 Posts |
I happened to notice that Bizzaro's all backs routine can keep the entire deck in order, with the added benefit of finding the named card much quicker. I've used this a bit before doing memdeck routines and it seems to take the heat off the deck well too. Anyone know other good effects that don't use memdeck, but keep the stack?
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sgtgrey Special user Austin, TX 839 Posts |
I'd take it the specific question is any tricks that start and end in the memorized order, but don't use the memorization of the stack? There's plenty that start out of stack order and end in order, some that only destroy part of the deck, and some that use it as a normal stacked deck (e.g. knowing the preceding or following card). In any case, here's osme I've used (I'm sure with collective thinking we'd come up with many more, but this was a small list I made a long while ago:
ACR (carefully routined) Homing Card Plus (slightly adapted) Herbert Trained Rubber Band (phase 1) Osterlind's Mind Reading with Cards Haunted Deck ACAAN (such as Patrick Redford's Hands Off) John Carey's Searching for a Sandwich (or many other sandwich routines, for that matter) Monkey in the Middle (using a selection) Michael Vincent's Brainwave My Wave or Richard Osterlind's Richardwave Aronson's Prior Commitment Tut Tut by Michael Close (can be adapted for Mnemonica) Double Mind Reading Deck by Eric Richardson (can be adapted for Mnemonica) Be Honest What Is It? by Eddie Fechter Blackjack Transo (John G - this one's really easy to set up from Mnemonica along with the Fechter effect) Card Under Glass Peeked Card mind reading Christ Aces Chicago Kicker by Terry Ward Brute Force Opener by Denis Behr (or similar, such as A La Annemann by Paul Cummins) Darwin Ortiz's Sorcerer's Apprentice (he has quite a few others that can work as well) Touch My Heart by Jack Carpenter Any routine that uses a small packet of cards that can be replaced (e.g. Twisting the Aces, Sponge Ball Aces by Joel Givens, some Two Card Transpos, etc.) More recently I realized some tricks from John Bannon's Destination Zero fit the bill if managed carefully (Ban-nihilation, AK-47, etc.) I'm excited to see what ones I forgot and ones I don't even know |
sgtgrey Special user Austin, TX 839 Posts |
I already realized I forgot to add John Guastaferro's wonderful Truth in Advertising can also be done, with a few minor handling adjustment.
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Uli Weigel Inner circle Berlin, Germany 1478 Posts |
Triumph
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chappy Special user 764 Posts |
I use a bunch of effects that have the advantage of keeping a stack in play.
A couple of my favourites include Josh Jay's Totally Triumph Aces for Aronson I also really enjoy Fechter's BHWII from a stack. Don't mean to plug but there are tons of ideas along the lines of the OP which I shared in The Devil's Staircase. Best, Greg
FARO FUNDAMENTALS, DETAILS OF DECEPTION and THE DEVIL'S STAIRCASE at www.thedevilsstaircase.com
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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts |
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On Aug 27, 2015, chappy wrote: Hi, Greg. Thanks for the information. Would you please be so kind as to provide the books where Josh Jay's "Totally Triumph" and (Simon Aronson's?) Aronson Aces are described? Thanks you. Mike P.S. In looking at the picture of the cover of your referenced "The Devil's Staircase" book, am I correct to assume that all or most of the effects described therein require the use of a Faro Shuffle?
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chappy Special user 764 Posts |
Turk,
Joshua Jay's Totally Triumph can be found in the Expert Talk column of the November 2008 issue of MAGIC magazine. It's a great version of Triumph that has some very nice displays and can be done completely in the hands. In The Devil's Staircase I've outlined my handling which adapts the effect for use with a full deck stack. Aces for Aronson is also in my book. It's a double-duke poker routine using the Aronson stack. Deal yourself four aces and your partner a straight-flush. The routine involves shuffling, dealing and more shuffling, yet immediately after it, you can continue using effects requiring the full Aronson stack. I also teach a version using my stack. You are right, it includes a bunch of my thoughts on using faro shuffles. Going hand in hand there is also a lot of info for the mem-deck worker. Here's some of the feedback the book has received from some of the great worker's out there... "I thoroughly enjoyed the chapter MEMORIZED DECK EFFECTS of your book and I learned a great deal that I haven't read anywhere else. I particularly enjoyed the mind reading section, especially the information on reading tells and how you tell how many cards are in the participant's packet. I can't wait to buy a copy from you when it's published, as I can see I'm only skimming the surface of this fascinating subject." - Richard Webster "I had the pleasure of reading the section on memorized deck effects in Greg's book. If you have any interest in this area then I highly encourage you to purchase his book. The section I reviewed was well written. But outside of the excellent description of the trick, the most valuable part to me were the well thought out ideas and various gambits that he describes. As I read the chapter I often found myself saying, that's a great idea. Greg has not only described a reputation making effect but he gives you many ideas that will enable you to tailor your presentation to a variety of subjects. If you only got this one routine out of the book, you would have a blockbuster. " – Steve Ehlers "Greg Chapman's The Devil's Staircase is full of great ideas and superb routines. I found his work with shuffle stacking and the memorized deck especially insightful. Greg knows how to create strong, magical and entertaining effects and it is great that he is sharing his work with all of us." – Eric Richardson This is an outstanding book and one which I feel all card men should study... One of the highlights is Pure and Simple, a stunning effect which can look and feel like pure Mind Reading to a lay audience. Highly recommended." - Michael Vincent "Although being into memorized deck magic for decades I found new routines and extremely clever approaches for this tool. Superb brain food! My highest recommendation! – Jan Forster "Pure and Simple" is a tour de force, a very strong revelation of four selected cards. - John Lovick Turk, if you pick up the Josh Jay MAGIC mag effect, I'd be happy to share with you my variation using the stack via PM/email. Best, Greg
FARO FUNDAMENTALS, DETAILS OF DECEPTION and THE DEVIL'S STAIRCASE at www.thedevilsstaircase.com
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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts |
Hi, Greg.
Thanks for that detailed info. It was very much appreciated. Lots of heavy hitters giving you great kudos on your book. And now, I'm on a hunt to now track down a copy of that 2008 copy of Magic magazine. I will admit that, to date, the Faro Shuffle remains an elusive quest. Thanks again. Mike
Magic is a vanishing Art.
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chappy Special user 764 Posts |
Hi Mike
You're welcome, The MAGIC back edition is presently available on the MAGIC website for $6.50. Just letting you know that my take on Totally Triumph also relies on a perfect faro, assuming you want to follow up with a memorized deck set. I hope you get that faro down, it opens a world of fun. Best, Greg
FARO FUNDAMENTALS, DETAILS OF DECEPTION and THE DEVIL'S STAIRCASE at www.thedevilsstaircase.com
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