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Ken Northridge
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On Sep 2, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote:
I had no idea at first this was about pricing kids birthday parties. Ignore my pays.

You mean there's other markets than kids birthday parties? Smile
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Apparently not.
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Gerry's focus on birthday shows and festival shows got me thinking about Jim Snack's ideas on the different shows / pricing levels.

Jim has shared his take on the topic of price ranges for different types of shows in some of his info products, but also in posts like this one:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......art=30#1

- Donald

P.S. As well as low fees, Gerry also touched on the topic of his highest fee, which he once got from a festival customer. That post from Jim Snack is actually on a thread about that topic. Here's a link to the start of that thread:

Magic Café thread titled... Your most expensive show ever...
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I think the most expensive show you ever have done is about as relevant as the least expensive show you have ever done.

Pros worry about average over the year at the end of the year.
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On Aug 29, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote:
Yea you make a lot of assumptions in this post.

First thing is what relationship exists between him and this client.

I won't go on but you seem to think an empty calendar is better than one with work on it. Would you feel better about him if he made less money over the year but his price was higher per show?

Maybe he does some clever thing where he can take some shows to guarantee income and then he can charge other clients more so can afford more. I can think of 100 reasons to do this and all of them really good business moves. The whole time guys who think like you are sitting home wondering why there is no work.

You do not give us enough information here to make the determination you have stayed. Perhaps you know more and have not shared which is cool. But the judgment you make should not be made with only this information.


Some time ago I was chatting with the head of a large destination management company I work with and asked her how she felt if a performer charged variable prices to other DMC's in the area.

She said that she expected prices would vary and that it was not an issue - she assumed some companies might send more business to a performer and as such they might at times work out more favorable rates because of the volume or relationship. But she said that she assumed that a performer such as me might offer different pricing to clients and that in the end they didn't care as long as the performer did good work and clients were happy.

I will always try to work with a client (especially a large hotel or DMC) if they have a budget and if they are willing to come close to my asking price. That happened last week with a high end resort I've played many times that asked me if their was squiggle room. It was a before Christmas weekend (which is premium) but I shaved a little off and they got the deal.

We also have to keep in mind that the bookers pad our pricing a bit for their own small margin.

To me it is about the long term relationship.
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Couldn't agree more with your last sentence.
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On Sep 6, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote:
Couldn't agree more with your last sentence.


:-)

Well you can certainly disagree with anything else as you know this stuff better than moi.
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No sir. I just thought that last sentence was particularly poignant. Made an extraordinary point that way to often goes overlooked.
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