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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
They argue always about mentalism vs mental magic vs magic etc. so I posed this question what to classify what I did here:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=15 Love to get my Spooky peers opinions there as well. I have a feeling they will be more insightful! Aside: I'm really grooving in whatever this is - my niche has really grown with paramentals of Leiber, Ubik shaving cream of PKD, Mechanical Hounds of Bradbury, Greys from Reticuli, and baby shoggoths of HPL.... the zone of unclarity!
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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Philemon Vanderbeck Inner circle Seattle, WA 4694 Posts |
It sounds like you are crafting an amazing repertoire. I hope to see you perform one of these days . . .
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
Thanks PV! I hope I can see you in person sometime too!
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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Lo Pan Special user Haven't slept in weeks - but I now have 769 Posts |
If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes!
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Godzilla Inner circle Tied & Untied Witches on 5316 Posts |
I'm still waiting for a performance DVD to be made by our " Dr Spektor "
"If you watch Godzilla backwards, it's about a big ass lizard who helps rebuild a half burnt-down city, then moonwalks back into the ocean"
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
Ain't gonna happen! Watched too many people making products suffer around here.... I'm just sharing with those I trust the more detailed things (as soon of you know seeing the "backroom" of a certain section of cyberspace)...
If there are any photos etc. I'll post them up from the media covering the place - on the front end of the same cybercorner above, there are numerous media bits of me in the midst of performances and presentations. I just don't go posting them around overtly. The reason I started this thread is I am soooooo tired of mentalists shooting down magic and arguing about is is mentalism or mental magic etc. when in fact trying told define it to fit is exactly what kills the art of mystery. So, I shared an example of taking ambiguous reality as a theme and presenting it using mentalism bones... but what really is it? To me, fun!
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
I think the point that gets lost is, is that classic mentalism is pretty easy to define and say what it is, and what it isn't... so your example that you posted, isn't mentalism in that sense...it would use some of its techniques or thinking, but you've gone off on a different tangent because it fits in with what you find interesting...
I have not been a mentalist for a while now, and I'm not a bizarrist either - as an example, I could if I wanted to, let you examine some crystals - and then we put our collective energy into one of them...and we can start bending that crystal there and then...without cover, nor envelopes nor boxes...its a weird thing, and its not really a mental power, but it could be if the presentation is tweaked...or twerked... I think its a bit like music, when rock 'n roll started on the backbeat of gospel, blues, country and so on...the choices the public had started to fracture...so by the mid 60s you had classic pop, but you also had freakbeat, mod, psychedelic soul creeping in, and other sub genres, all borrowing from one another...so you went from listening to crooners to screamers of Texan punk rock of the mid and late 60s in just a few years... Same with mentalism and magic, you have some very straight forward definitions to work with, and then you have the hybrids...and that's when you get the arguments... People confusing what they are doing and labelling it as one thing, when its really something else - and that often hapens because they've not studied the classics and got the foundations to work with/from... That's how I see it...
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bud.scott Regular user 189 Posts |
Maybe it's a form of Mercerism because you have totaly immersed the participants in an altered state of reality.
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