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ash2arani Special user 923 Posts 
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I watched the trailer and saw the performance to be a bit complicated and the effect dragged.
However, there was a small tingling in me that kept telling me to take the plunge. I did and I was flabbergasted by the sheer genius of this effect. The thinking behind it is just right up my alley. Will I use it? Yes!!! Will I use it as seen in the video? No!!! I believe this a method more than an effect. And Phill is comprehensive when it comes to teaching. Great job Phill!! |
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1798 Posts
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I'm trying to prep full word sets for various different languages to make it super simple for people to make their own word lists - Spanish, German, French, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch? Seem reasonable? I've got readymade useable word lists for Spanish, German and French already, but I think that longer term it will be better to have the full resource available?
(to clarify, it's already totally possible to make word lists in these languages, having full word sets will reduce the time it takes to make word lists down to just a couple of minutes) Phill
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RSchlutz V.I.P. 512 Posts
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I admit when I first saw the concept I was a little snoot about it but then I witness Nick Locapo perform it for laymen at a busy bar and they loved it. It is of those effects like "lie detector" plot that laymen just enjoy and grasp.
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bowers Inner circle Oakboro N.C. 7024 Posts
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I really like this effect also.
Haven't performed it yet. Todd |
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ted french Inner circle Columbus Ohio 1946 Posts
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I agree with and felt the same way as Ryan but changed my opinion after seeing the reactions it gets. Laypeople love it, and it has a great close to self working method.
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts
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Not only did that woman in the crowd figure out the correct word twice, she did it much faster than the performer. Is that really the message you want to send? Kudos to the marketers for leaving that in, though - nice to see some honesty in marketing.
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1798 Posts
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It's pretty weird that that happened! I've actually only had someone solve it once, in the first phase, and that person was a crossword fiend. It actually worked really nicely and got them on my side, and fully convinced the group that it was for real - after all if it was just a trick how could she have known it? XD The idea of the first two phases is more like a Rubiks cube solve than a moment of impossibility, and those phases exist to set up the final phase - so if someone there is able to perceive the word, it's not a problem IMO but your mileage may vary depending on whether you make a big deal about how impossible the first phase is.
I don't want to seem like I'm defending the effect because I'm worried about its flaws, I'm not - I wouldn't have released it if I wasn't happy with it, and I really really am, just keen to answer questions. Also I've been sitting on it for so long it's nice to be able to actually talk about it! Phill
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Sam Hagen Regular user 170 Posts
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Hi Phil,
How many words the specs can choose from the list? I'm wondering whether it is possible to present the words in the form of sentence rather than a word list. SH
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1798 Posts
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It would be a bit of work to set up but not impossible once you understand the system, especially using the resource in the ebook for building new word lists. The word list is about 30 words: it would work with less but obviously if the selection set is too small it loses a bit of punch.
Phill
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slowkneenuh Regular user After 5,278+ posts, only credited with 133 Posts
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Great effect and made that much better by having phases that seemingly increase the challenge faced by the performer and which makes it more impressive each time.
You will enjoy this if you are a fan of Leo Boudreau's effects.
John
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1798 Posts
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Following a few questions about using Stegosaurus with different languages, the resource page linked in the ebook now has links to Danish, Dutch, French, German, Italian, Portuguese and Spanish masterlists.
I will be putting up example word-lists in as many of these languages as I can but you'll have to bear with me because I only speak two languages: English and Bad English. Phill
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1798 Posts
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After a conversation on the Penguin forum, I have added a Greek masterlist to the resources page.
Phill
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John Carey V.I.P. 1057 Posts
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On Oct 30, 2015, phillsmiff wrote: Phill absolutely smoked me with this at a lunch meeting recently. What a delightful piece of very strong pocket Mentalism! John |
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gibby357 Veteran user The Woodlands, TX 344 Posts
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At first glance, watching the demo video, it comes off as what is being presented, a Word Game. Not a strong piece of Mentalism in that respect. Even if the Lady had not guessed, it would have come off at best as someone who can do word puzzles pretty good. Impressive but not very much. However, that last phase was what I was waiting for. I think it was what we all were waiting for! I will be purchasing this effect. Great Job, Mr. Smith!
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1798 Posts
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Thanks Leo. To clarify, you can just do the final phase, it works fine like that, I just built the three phases to build up to it, and I think that it sets up the audience to think a certain way, even if they think it is a trick somehow, and then totally wrongfoots them. I hope you enjoy it.
Phill
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dmoses Inner circle 2261 Posts
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I'm happy for this to be dismissed by those who don't know better. I'm not a fan of "Powerball" effects myself.
But this is a cogent, CUSTOMIZABLE and fooling bit of mind-reading. There are other effects possible with it to be sure, but it's mentalism at its heart. I think what might put off some is that it might require a little bit of work. All the better. d
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Ollie New user 87 Posts
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Hey guys, I was performing this and the spectator spelled the word hinge, however the word build was in the sequence as well and I ended up getting it wrong. I am sure I have done everything correctly with the setup, anyone else had this problem?
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1KJ Inner circle Warning: We will run out of new tricks in 4388 Posts
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I think the effectiveness of this routine depends upon the audience. I think that for some audiences, this will come across as a cool puzzle more than magic or mind reading. Just my opinion.
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Joe Roberts Special user 863 Posts
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On Dec 29, 2015, Ollie wrote: No. "hinge" isn't one of the target words. If you want it to be, then you need to take out "build." |
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1798 Posts
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Hi Ollie, if you watch the video on the penguin site it has a graphic when I am explaining the words that shows the correct word is henge, I had it wrong on the cards for some reason. This is also obviated by an adjusted word list in the book and covered in the forum on the Penguin site. I'm sorry if you missed all the different ways I covered this, I tried to resolve it. Where did you learn the effect?
KJ: is that your experience with Stegosaurus in front of a real audience?
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