What kind of C/S coin do you prefer?
Heads/Heads, Silver Heads/Copper Tails, Copper Heads/Silver Tails, Tail/Tail? If you do have a preference why?
I used to like Heads/Heads until I discovered I had a Copper Heads/Silver tail version and found I could use a Expanded Silver ] with it and have a reverse sun and moon coin.
Also, what if your favorite copper/silver routine?

Inquiring minds want to know.
What are your thoughts

TC

No real preference of heads/tails. Current favorite C/S routine is Samoya by Rob Thompson.

Steve Dusheck's C/S Transpo (re-released as Digital Dissovle) is also good, but doesn't use a C/S coin.

Yes I have a DD and love it.
There are allot of really good C/S routines in the NYCM seminar DVD's. I know Dr. Mike is big on C/S routines. He rarely uses Gaffs and he likes to use really worn Copper coins.
Thanks for the feedback.

TC

I just found this thread.

I saw Eric Jone's At The Table lecture, and I liked his Copper/Silver routine.

I've never owned a Copper/Silver set. I started another thread, but I'll ask here too, what brand/manufacturer do you recommend for a good, decently priced Copper Silver set?

Thanks!

This may not be the highest quality set, but for amateur magicians like myself who are still working on maybe getting paid some day, the price is really cheap. It comes with one English penny coin (I think it's a replica) and one Kennedy half-English penny coin. All you need is a Kennedy half dollar and your set is complete.

For $8.99 you can't beat it. It's a Roy Kueppers brand.

http://madhattermagicshop.com/magicshop/......_id=1323

JohnnyPD: Shouldn’t be anything at all wrong with that set. Probably better than some you can find out there!

Jim

I own both Todd Lassen and Tango copper silver.
All I can say is I love the sound from Todd Lassen copper silver, it sounds just like a real coin,
as for tango, it produce a plastic-ish sound when 2 coins hitting each other

It's the little things like that that you pay the big bucks for!

Yes, call me a perfectionist:), but sound is actually a Central part of my entire act
But like JohnnyPD said, Roy Kueppers made his copper silver for less than 10 dollar
Can't beat that price, I know Roy is a wonderful craftsman

I totally agree. Things like that can make a big difference. I don't blame you for appreciating the sound quality at all. I hate those dull thuds.
Although granted, with certain gaffs I don't think it can be avoided.

I like a walking liberty heads side and a British penny tails side

3 Wishes/Lycanthrop Moon coins

Don't overlook the C/S TUC. It can be a C/S as needed and a silver when not and handled by spectators.

In many effects it can also function as a regular TUC (such as 3Fly). With an Exp [ you can make our own CSB kind of set up,
and its magnetic properties allows for steals, ditches and stacking not possible with a regular C/S gaff.
I use this for my Invisible Shelf routine with a silver, copper and solid brass coin - each one transporting without the hands ever touching.

Consider adding the Shimmed Slippery Sam and you can toss the combo around with diverse morphing ability. (yet to be tried)

My C/S coin is a Johnson Walking Liberty Heads and an English Penny Heads. I got it almost 20 years ago (when The Magic Warehouse used to stock the entire Johnson Silver Line). I really don't believe the H/T combination makes any difference. The spec only ever sees one side of the coin at a time and it would always be a clear 50/50 chance of seeing one side or another (as far as the H/T's aspect).

I'd heard that some cheaper gaffed coins are lacking when it comes to producing that true coin-to-coin ka-ching sound (or is it ka-chang?). I'm surprised that the Tango coins would fail this test so badly. I know they're not the best, but I'd assumed they were using real coins to create their gaffs.

If I were working professionally for monetary gain, then I'd want to have the best props that I could afford (within reason) that stand up visually and audibly to scrutiny. I've looked at some photos of Todd Lassen's work, but his website doesn't really give you any clues as to what the costs might be for some of his work. Just some ball park prices would be nice to know, so I could say, "I could afford that" or "No way! Really?" I've also heard (okay, I read it) that all of his coins are custom individual orders AND that the wait time can be several months or several years? Not sure about that either.

The Roy Kuepper's set is working just fine for me now, cause it's all practice and mirror time for this guy. That dang purse/Morritt palm is making me work for it, too. But I know it just takes time. It also sounds like I need to check out many OTHER C/S routines, besides Vernon's Spellbound. I'm assuming the C/S is short for Copper/Silver, but does that just mean using copper coins with silver coins or does it mean using a coin that is copper and silver? Or both? (And I believe I saw a thread referencing C/S routines, so will have to peruse that thread for suggestions.) Thanks for answers already shared and for those answers yet to come. Please pardon the amateur's shortcomings. He's trying to shove ten or twenty years of magical education into just a year or two (give or take a year or two). I came to the magic party late (in life), but never too late.

Lassen's prices really haven't changed in the last couple years so this should give you an idea of the basics.
You will need to call him in order to place an order and he could give you the exact price then.
https://coolotis.wordpress.com/2014-prices/

C/S effects can apply to many in which coins of obviously different appearance are used. Traditionally this is a USA silver half dollar and an English Penny but many other combinations are available.

The contrast of the coins is an important element of the effect, and an effect originally done with the above set can also be done with colored poker chips or black and white washers.

There are also C/S gaffs, that again do not half to be Half dollar and English Penny. The most common is a two-sided combination. That is what folks are talking about here.

Sometimes this is used with Exp [, or a custom fit combination such as CSB.

Many versions of C/S Transpositions are available -- some with gaffs and other with just sleights. There are advantages to all of these approaches.

Ideally a performer would have several different methods mastered in case of a repeat situation.

Other than Transpositions, a coin of contrasting color can be used to create an appearance of being more difficult since duplicate coins seem to be excluded.

I can attest that doing the famous GadAbout Coins with a copper and silver coin rather than two silvers in hand comes across as being "more impossible."

It also depends on you audience and their familiarity with coins. At the local magic circle you might win a contest doing 3Fly with red, white and blue chips while a lay audience may not care.

Your comments above related to "sets" do not really apply to a C/S gaff coin as in the OP. No audibility issues and all are made from real coins.

If you use the search function you can find dozens of threads on various C/S gimmicks.