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FragonX
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Hello ! I want to know if the CLASSIC PASS need big hands ? Because it's been 1 year above I knew from a CD by Brad Christian it but still can't perform it. I have watched a lot of videos explaining about it but still nothing. Did anyone got the same problem ?





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For a lot of people, the classic pass requires strong misdirection. It's a hard move to make invisible.
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Yup! MISDIRECTION is the major factor!

Years ago a magician developed the "COCKROACH PASS". he held a break, stomped his foot, saying, "Darn those cockroaches! When everyone looked at the floor, he did it.
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I TRIED to delete that, this @#$% MACHINE WOULDN'T DO IT.
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On Dec 22, 2015, FragonX wrote:
Hello! I want to know if the CLASSIC PASS need big hands? Because it's been 1 year above I knew from a CD by Brad Christian it but still can't perform it. I have watched a lot of videos explaining about it but still nothing.


Like many sleights, having "big" hands is not a prerequisite for executing the Classic Pass. If a right-handed worker can hold the deck comfortably with his right hand in the Biddle grip, then he should be able to do the move as long as he practices correctly according to the instructional techniques from the good resources.

However, it is necessary to comprehend why you need the Classic Pass and its practical applications, before you learn it. In theory, although the Classic Pass can be used to control a chosen card inserted in the middle of the deck to the top, the sleight was originally conceived by a dealer with the intention to undo a cut by a player on the gambling table. Without physical cover or psychological misdirectioon, it is very difficult to conceal the move. It may look good on camera because of the angle it is filmed. Do you know that Jason England can do the move faster than your eyes can blink? You literally have to slow the video to 10% to catch him.

If you believe that you have "small" hands and you want to control a single card only to the top, then I'd suggest you to study and master the Guinn Utility Backslip (GUB). It is a deceptively versatile and surprisingly simple get-ready move that allows you to accomplish the following sleights:

- Control card to top
- Control card to second from top
- Control card to bottom
- Control card to second from bottom
- Multiple Shift
- Side Steal
- Secret Reversal
- Top Change
- Bottom Change
- Color Change
- Lap
- Gambler’s Cop
- Tenkai Palm
- False Deals

Don't believe it? Watch the demo by the inventor, Scott F. Guinn.
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No you don't need big hands. You just need good misdirection. I've taught kids with hands not half the size of mine to do it and they do it well.
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On Jan 7, 2016, SamChak wrote:
If you believe that you have "small" hands and you want to control a single card only to the top, then I'd suggest you to study and master the Guinn Utility Backslip (GUB). It is a deceptively versatile and surprisingly simple get-ready move that allows you to accomplish the following sleights:

- Control card to top
- Control card to second from top
- Control card to bottom
- Control card to second from bottom
- Multiple Shift
- Side Steal
- Secret Reversal
- Top Change
- Bottom Change
- Color Change
- Lap
- Gambler’s Cop
- Tenkai Palm
- False Deals



Thanks, SamChak!

FragonX, I developed the GUB (and a couple of other moves, explained in my "Knuckle-Massaging Card Techniques") specifically because I have bad hands. I've injured my hands multiple times over the years since childhood, several times very seriously. My fingers are quite stiff and inflexible (can't even make a "3" as normally done in the USA--like the boy scout salute--with either hand), and because I accidentally stabbed myself in the palm when I was 12, severing the nerves, I have almost no feeling in my left index fingertip. So a lot of the more "dexterous" sleights are virtually impossible for me, no matter how much I practice them. I do know and sparingly use a couple of passes, specifically the spread pass, a turnover pass, and a no-turnover version of the Hermann Pass.

If I had been practicing diligently for a year and haven't made significant progress on a move, I would "move" on to something more productive and useful in real-world performance. But that's me. Others may prefer to stick with for their own reasons. And that's OK.

Should you be interested in the GUB, it is available in ebook form at Lybrary: http://www.lybrary.com/scott-f-guinn-m-2......4d#plist (near the bottom of the page). Except for my ones released in 2015 or later, I sold the rights to Chris Wasshubber at Lybrary, so I don't make any money off their sales, so you can trust that I'm not just trying to make a buck off you. I wouldn't have put them out if I didn't feel they were useful.

You have my best wishes for your success in your magic pursuits!
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I would also recommend trying to find instruction from other places besides for that DVD. Different people do it slightly differently and you can pick up tips from them all. The Card College series, as an example, has many different passes very well explained, along with tips and covers for all of them.

Even just reading about the pass on the Café can give you some wonderful tips.
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I learned the pass from Jay Sankey. Even though I have big hands, I am not as dexterous (sp) as others. Jay has tiny hands, and IMO, teaches it very well. I think he teaches it on his ACR DVD.

KJ
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