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gillesA4 Special user Brussels, Belgium 593 Posts |
I asked exactly the same question a couple of days ago but get no answer so far...
We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. (A. Einstein)
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Scott Alexander V.I.P. 1471 Posts |
Pain Game is terrific. Great thinking behind it.
Although this is not really the proper place to do method analysis, I'll simply refer you to the thoughts I posted from Penn above. If you can read between the lines you'll see why I prefer my method. If you really want to work on this plot I suggest buying and reading everything you can get your hands on about it. ( pun intended ) Then you work through them all, evaluate their pluses and minuses and go with the one that you like. |
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Ben Whiting Loyal user Traverse City, MI 246 Posts |
The Pain Game comes with 4 blocks (though I believe you can buy extras from Jon Allen). Scott it looks like yours comes with 5 blocks. Is that correct?
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Scott Alexander V.I.P. 1471 Posts |
Yes five blocks Ben.
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cardlover Regular user 170 Posts |
I don't have this,or pain game,and I'm sure both have their Pro's and cons,but going just by the performances of both,Nailed It! looks smoother,in how the nail is placed in and removed from the bag.More to consider than just that obervation,but it is of substantial importance in my opinion.
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Jupiter47 Loyal user 299 Posts |
I have used The Pain Game for years. I love it. But this has all the makings to take over as the safest and best roulette trick out. Will be watching this thread closely
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cardlover Regular user 170 Posts |
No mention in the add copy on angles,or possible clothing requirements ,so could someone please answer these two questions?
Seriously considering getting this,but need answers to these questions. |
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Kune Veteran user 312 Posts |
I too am extremely tempted to get this, but fearful there might be something in the method that would prevent me from using it with ease.
The sooner I find out for certain I can use it in all my shows without concern, the sooner I can give Scott my money |
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gillesA4 Special user Brussels, Belgium 593 Posts |
I absolutely second Cardlover about the manipulation of the bloc with the nail , incredibly clean as the hand barely enters the bag; but I'm a bit reluctant about the iron rod cut at an angle, rather than looking like a real nail...
We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. (A. Einstein)
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Scott Alexander V.I.P. 1471 Posts |
Angles aren't an issue, and you can do it naked if you like. ( which might make it more entertaining )
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Kune Veteran user 312 Posts |
Those last two posts have very nearly convinced me.
I still have one question: are there any moves that need a lot of practice, or could potentially go wrong during performance? I assume the answer is no, but would feel better with confirmation. |
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Scott Alexander V.I.P. 1471 Posts |
You are correct in assuming no… This is simple and easy to do.
There's no room for being real fancy with a trick like this. |
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Kune Veteran user 312 Posts |
I'm convinced now
The main thing I needed was a comparison to T2 Sterile, but the Jonathan Royle video already covered that. |
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Scott Alexander V.I.P. 1471 Posts |
Jonathan went above and beyond in evaluating them all.
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Saturn UK Inner circle 2658 Posts |
We are pleased to be stocking this in the UK.
Scott has really come up with something special here, this really is 100% safe, the worst that could happen is you hurt your hand banging it on the table or the block of wood too hard!!! The handling is simplicity itself and routine just great, this is without a doubt the version I will be using in my shows, well done Scott. We won't be stocking refills, but we will put up a bonus page so those buying from us can find what they need in the UK. UK customers can find it here, we are expecting stock to arrive next week. http://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/saturn-magi......ick.html
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wizardpa Inner circle The New Orleans area 1011 Posts |
I bought this from Saturn Magic tonight, but I hopefully canceled my order a few minutes ago, only because of the exchange rate. I can get this from a magic shop here in the US cheaper.
This is right up my alley so to speak. Tricks like this are perfect for the teen aged audience. They love my dangerous shows. I do quite a few (possibly) dangerous illusions. I have been doing Smash and Stab since it first came out. I even made a fake hand glove so that when I smash the cup, it looks like I stabbed my hand. Anyway, for the life of me I can not imagine how someone could be so stupid as to actually stab themselves, especially someone who was invited to perform at the Magic Castle. Whenever I do one of my dangerous shows, I check and double check, and triple check everything. Once I'm sure Saturn canceled my order, I will buy this from Scott, along with the expandable kit. I have an idea on how I want to present this. |
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MBrook3902 Loyal user Naples, FL & Hickory, NC 202 Posts |
I have used Scott's SHATTERED for years even though there were things about it that bothered me. First, you could never really prove the bottle was "real" at the beginning or at the end. Spectator couldn't touch it. Second, even though it was always ok, I didn't like placing the bag on the bottle & block rather than placing them into the bag. It made letting the spectator pick up the bag/block/bottle a bit un-nerving. Also, the bag could get knocked off of one of the blocks quite easily thereby ruining the illusion. Thirdly, I was once told that a bottle, hit with a hammer, wouldn't really break like that but that it was a good trick anyway...hmmm. Bringing me to NAILED IT. I liked the video performance and JR 's review. It answered many questions. And Scott's been good answering questions on here. This fits my character just like SHATTERED did. I'll be ordering shortly.
MB
It takes 4 to 6 minutes for the brain to die without oxygen. I can fix anything in that amount of time.
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simon hughes Veteran user London 360 Posts |
Everyone is talking about this being 100% safe cos there is no solid objects that are in the bag. At the start the spike is shown to be solid. What if you forget to make it safe before you put it in the bag? If that happens you now have some thing in the bag that will injure you.
Also I have bought The pain game ages ago and with that the nail it is locked into place in the block but with this the spike is just placed onto a block. Some people might just assume it can come off the way it went on or that you might have other spikes in the bag you can somehow just put onto the block. Not a convincer for me! Sorry but I’ll be sticking with Pain Game |
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Saturn UK Inner circle 2658 Posts |
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On Jan 13, 2016, simon hughes wrote: The routine is 100% safe, your assumptions above are incorrect. I can't expand on how or why for obvious reason but this is 100% no risk of stabbing yourself.
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