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GoncaloGil Regular user 131 Posts |
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On Jan 5, 2016, GAMJoker wrote: Our product is patent pending internationally and we really would love to see the video that Will Tsai has. Its strange that will take 3 months to launch a Vapr Watch, very strange. 3 months just right after we launch ours. We hope its not a coincidence, but we are protected by law regarding a smoke device inside a watch. |
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GAMJoker Loyal user Bad language skills confirmed in 224 Posts |
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On Jan 5, 2016, GoncaloGil wrote: I also hope (for you) that it's not just a copy of your product, but if it has remote controll or a working watch before you have a version like that, they will be a hard competitor for you. |
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GoncaloGil Regular user 131 Posts |
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On Jan 5, 2016, GAMJoker wrote: A remote control is totally useless. 100% useless for a watch that delivers smoke. We didn´t added a remote simply because it would make our product much worse. Why do you want to place remotes in your body, if you may have a 100% self contained unit, with delay and vibrating? A remote, I repeat, is much worse that a switch on the watch itself. |
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gavaro New user 43 Posts |
Remember that magic doesn't have to be noticed. The smoke watch is deducible
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GAMJoker Loyal user Bad language skills confirmed in 224 Posts |
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On Jan 5, 2016, GoncaloGil wrote: Just a personal preference. I would like it if you don't have to touch the watch at all. Not only for the standard version where you wear it, but also you would have so much possibilities more with a remote contorl. I use my Vapr also in many other situations where you let anything smoke over a distance. So you could even do other tricks with the watch over a distance if you just need a bit of smoke anywhere else. That's why I love it when smoke devices have a remote control. The other thing is I would love to have a "real" watch and not a broken watch. You write in the description of the product: "If you don´t wear a watch while performing magic, Lynx Smoke is the perfect reason to start using one." And what is when I already wear a watch? Then I shouldn't buy it? If you are a magician who's always wearing a watch because you perform tricks where you have to stop the time... Should I switch my watch now during the performance? |
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C. Dunlop Magic New user 59 Posts |
I'd think having a remote instead of time delay is better. You get the full control of the device instead of trying to time and wait for it. Just my two cents.
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Will Tsai Loyal user 209 Posts |
Just checking in guys. GoncaloGil I assume you are the creator of the Lynx Smoke? No it didn't take us three month. It took us three and the half years to get to mass production stage. And with our volume, we need to make sure everything is ready when we start to move it. If you are or have an R&D guy, I'm sure you'd understand the process and time it takes for an electronic device to be invented, prototyped, revised, tested, trial run produced, mass produced, and with the international logistic arranged. It's no where close to a 3 month job. Our device is also patent pending for the smoke device built in a watch and the wireless technology involved. Just to clear that up. I am sure you have your market and supporters and we have ours. The market is big and I wish both of us have much success with our inventions.
I agree GamJoker and C Dunlop Magic, from personal experience, having the complete control over the device does have major advantage in performance. At least it's my preferred method. That's why in our Vapr Watch we have a dedicated remote for it. Just like Vapr. |
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Alex DLF Inner circle 1990 Posts |
Does the watch give correct time?
No, due to the electronics that are inside. However if your spectator notices the time is not correct while you perform magic, you should consider another job Can I perform Lynx Smoke Sleeveless? Absolutely. We engineered all the electronics into an innocent prop that everyone uses (a watch). No one suspects that the watch is gimmicked, allowing the magician to roll his sleeves totally, giving the performer total freedom, creating a very magical moment. Does it make any noise? Lynx Smoke is quiet, producing a small noise, impossible to hear while performing, being perfect for close-up. How is the smoke activated? The watchband has a very well disguised switch. The magician only needs to press it to activate the smoke. Also the magician can define how many seconds of delay he wants before the smoke starts to being produced. Once the smoke starts, the watch vibrates, indicating to the magician that the smoke is coming out. This is a huge plus regarding this product. Does Lynx Smoke uses a battery? Yes, it uses a battery that is secretly hidden inside the watch casing. A full battery is enough for approximately 25 smoke productions. It also comes with a USB charger, and each battery takes only 60 minutes to charge. Does Lynx Smoke uses any special cartridge? No. You just need to apply two drops of the special liquid included directly into the lynx watch. This process takes no more than 3 seconds. Just two drops of liquid are enough for approximately 10 smoke productions.
Get yourself Stamper and MONU, the perfect walkaround packet tricks: https://youtu.be/rwtfeKFeLms & https://youtu.be/yz5yKlI-4w8
Make sure to check my English review Channel! http://www.youtube.com/c/alexisreviews |
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GAMJoker Loyal user Bad language skills confirmed in 224 Posts |
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On Jan 5, 2016, Will Tsai wrote: Great to hear, can you already tell me if your watch is showing the actual time or is it also just showing the same time 24/7? |
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Ceierry Inner circle Europe 1578 Posts |
We've finally found the best solution to the smoke device plot, I'll not talk about the Will future release, I'm more interested in this one for various reasons.
The smoke is clean, elegant, the device is silent, it's extremly pratical and economic. The reset (I mean, the process of putting more liquid ofc) is not more than 2-3 seconds. For me, it's the final answer to the smoke production plot. Designed by workers, for workers.
Author of 10S Star Sign Divination - olivier.ceierry@gmail.com for a digital copy.
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C. Dunlop Magic New user 59 Posts |
Thanks for the info Will. I'll wait for yours to make my decision. I only want to spend the $350 once. I like the remote function already though!
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Alex DLF Inner circle 1990 Posts |
I don't understand the remote control thing.. You will have to press it anyway ! Or you put the remote in your shoe and activate it with your toe ? I don't get it.
Get yourself Stamper and MONU, the perfect walkaround packet tricks: https://youtu.be/rwtfeKFeLms & https://youtu.be/yz5yKlI-4w8
Make sure to check my English review Channel! http://www.youtube.com/c/alexisreviews |
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C. Dunlop Magic New user 59 Posts |
If it's like the Vapr one is convenient. Just put the band under your arm. Takes a second and you are in full control of the device. Sometimes I use the pocket set up too. It's quite neat that the remote was designed in that shape. Sits nicely in the pocket.
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AaronishMagic Special user 635 Posts |
I am not a fan of time delay devices too. It's just not as convenient. Looks nice though. The price is like $380 USD. Quite a bit of investment here. I'll wait on this one so I don't have to spend the money twice.
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ArtIn Inner circle 1693 Posts |
25 puffs and 60 minutes of recharging... With that in mind the refill process doesn't seem that impressive to me.
For the delayed activation - timing is all with smoke devices and to have full (remote) control makes sense. |
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Ceierry Inner circle Europe 1578 Posts |
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On Jan 5, 2016, ArtIn wrote: Use the smoke to enhance an effect, not to create one. Don't tell me you'll smoking all way down running for one side to another side saying 'I'M BURNING!!!!!' during more than 60 minutes. Are you using smoke in every phase of an ACR? x)
Author of 10S Star Sign Divination - olivier.ceierry@gmail.com for a digital copy.
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AaronishMagic Special user 635 Posts |
It only does 25 puffs and 60 mins of charging? For the price point it's not very impressive at all.
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GAMJoker Loyal user Bad language skills confirmed in 224 Posts |
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On Jan 5, 2016, AaronishMagic wrote: Does it matter? I never used more than 25 puffs in a performance. Charge it, make your performance, do it with under 25 puffs, go home & charge it again & store it for the next performance. |
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JanForster Inner circle Germany ... when not traveling... 4190 Posts |
Buy - as offered - a second battery and go again after a couple of seconds if you want to become the magician's master puff maker... Seldom read so much bu...it on one page... Jan
Jan Forster
www.janforster.de |
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GoncaloGil Regular user 131 Posts |
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On Jan 5, 2016, C. Dunlop Magic wrote: With Lynx Smoke there are no bands, unless you want to give the illusion that you exercise (pun intended). And with Lynx Smoke you activate the button with the same hand by pushing it lightly into the body in a very discrete motion. Like this you don´t need to go to your pocket and press a button (or even use the other hand), or you would go outside the spectators vision and the action would be suspicious. Everything in this product is extremelly well thought out and was created with the professional magician in mind. |
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