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goochelen
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Hi all,

I wonder if anyone knows how Juan Tamariz decided the order of the Mnemonica deck.

If I recall properly, he mentioned in his Penguin Lecture that he studied physics.
So I am wondering if he made some "calculations", adjusted them, etc. to finally end up with the Mnemonica deck.

The reason I ask is out of interest and because it might (or not) help me make memorizing Mnemonica easier (i.e. more logical).

Thanks
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I don't have a lot of experience with memorized decks, but I found this online:

"Mnemonica can be reached from U.S. new deck order (A-KH, A-KC, K-AD, K-AS) using several long runs and 5 faro shuffles (1 is a partial deck faro). It was designed to be reached from Spanish new deck order, which simplifies and shortens the process significantly."

Hope it helps.
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Hi Chano,

That makes a lot of sense i.e. to reach Mnemonica order with a Spanish deck in a short period of time.

Thanks for the explanation Smile

Once I am more at ease with the Mnemonica deck, I migth buy some Spanish decks.

I was not aware that there are multiple NDO depending on the "Continent of origin" of the deck which has been also discussed on this thread:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=205
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Yeah, I didn't know that either until I found that quote. It definitely comes in handy if you want to pull out a brand new deck of cards, shuffle it a bit, and go into a memorized stack routine. You'd be putting it into the stack right in front of them haha. To help you with your original issue though, I would look up Harry Lorayne's memorizing method to memorize the stack. I'm sure there are several techniques for memorizing a stack, but I've always been a fan of his memorization techniques (I use them in my everyday life) so it just seemed easier for me to slip into that.
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On Jan 7, 2016, goochelen wrote:
Once I am more at ease with the Mnemonica deck, I migth buy some Spanish decks.



You can also consider Phoenix cards. They are also ordered in order to ease the passing to Mnemonica, so that "just" four faros, inversion of the top 26 and a partial faro are enough.
So much to do, so little time . . .
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Well itt will keep me busy for a while to master Mnemonica and perfect faros in 2016.
That'll be a nice challenge Smile
Thanks for the Phoenix tip/suggestion.
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Hey,
If you go through the book the stack is initially a stay-stack (mirrored) after the faros and then altered by running half the deck. Besides for creating a powerful new stack this alteration also hides the fact that it started as a stay-stack.
I would think that he created it so that you could have the versatility of using his stack for the effects that need that order, and being able to easily switch to stay-stack and utilize the power of that stack.
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On Jan 7, 2016, goochelen wrote:

The reason I ask is out of interest and because it might (or not) help me make memorizing Mnemonica easier (i.e. more logical).

Thanks


I don't think you'll find any logical order what so ever to this deck, I've shown the deck to spectators, friends, and family many many times (this is a key routine for me) and studied it myself for quite a bit, it defies any sort of pattern. I love it for that reason Smile

I'll also say this was the hardest trick for me to learn, it took me a month and a half of straight repetition until I was comfortable with the order!
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