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mindpunisher Inner circle 6132 Posts |
Just thought this might be interesting as he sells stage hypnosis courses along with other products.
http://fakedoctorate.blogspot.co.uk/2016.......html?m= |
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kcalB Special user Took me 16 years to make 999 Posts |
Thank you for the alert.
Best Regards, SB
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IMAGINACIAN Special user In Your Thots 558 Posts |
The internet is full of such stories. Why even we magicians many times 'sell' hypnosis as entertainment ? don't we ? It is very confusing sometimes.
There is no better freedom than choice and no better choice than freedom.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
No it is not confusing.
I was wondering when this would hit here. It is not just him.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10586 Posts |
Me too, just waiting. More and more of this will be forthcoming as a result of the last generation or two of those performers that choose to us ethe fake it til you make it path of some of the gurus that teach creating fake testimonials, references, video, credits, claims and such. There was bound to be a fallout and I for one have just been waiting for it to come.
I am so tired of all of the "best," "greatest" and all of the other fake claims that are regularly made, misrepresented and/or exaggerated. |
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mindpunisher Inner circle 6132 Posts |
I worked hard to get every testimonial I ever had. That meant I actually went out there and had to learn and even create new ways of doing things. I worked for clients on results based programmes. I did this because I genuinely loved the challenge of solving those problems and developing my skills in order to do it. Most of these guys don't have the knowledge or the skills to do what they claim. Which can be really frustrating in the market place especially if you are working your butt off to do it right.
It happens all over the net. I recently got my bank to chargeback $5000 from a guru I paid for marketing training when I found out his credentials were fake. My bank did it for me right away. But I never let it stop me working with other coaches because some are genuine and taking the risk has changed my life 100%. Just need to learn how to spot them. |
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Zerububle Elite user Poole 430 Posts |
While it appears that he's had fake testimonials does it therefore stand that his products are also crap? You seem to be assuming that in your subject title here MP. Richard appears to be quite successful and knowledgable or is that not the case. Just wondering as you're OP seems unclear
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I guess this answers the question as to if it will hurt his business or not.
He had to lie to sell his crap. What about that is unclear exactly? Do you knowing and willingly buy products from people who have to lie to sell them? If so then there is no problem at all. Wouldn't it make sense that if the product was any good at all he would use real testimonials from real people? Look at all the trouble he went through just to get this stuff. It speaks volumes.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Zerububle Elite user Poole 430 Posts |
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On Feb 29, 2016, Dannydoyle wrote: You have clearly made another presumption there. I haven't bought any of Richards stuff, crap or not. I was merely making the point that just because he 'may' have failed in this respect doesn't mean his knowledge or products aren't up to scratch. If you've got personal experience having purchased a product that is clearly not very good then I'll accept your appraisal. Otherwise most of you just come across as, well, embarrassing. I agree its foolish at best making such an error but the lengths you all go to makes him look like he's evil. Are his products actually good or bad? Or are you making all your judgments on this, frankly dubious, website. |
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10586 Posts |
You seem to be acceptant of this behavior which I myself find, well, embarrassing.
The point is quite simple, if he exhibits shadiness, fakery and dishonesty in one area of ones business, it is predictive behavior and the greatest indicator that the same exists in other areas as well. If one part of a foundation is wonky, the rest is affected similarly. It's not making judgements but understanding proven principles. When one demonstrated dishonesty, his other actions and in this case products and services immediately become suspect as well. I can't see faulting Danny or anyone from coming to these exact conclusions. Another true indicator is how the person deals with the revelations unveiled. If incorrect or falsely accused, he should be able to simply and willingly offer concrete evidence proving otherwise. It is simple really. It is about time that some of these guys are getting called out out their grandiose claims and boasts (not this guy specifically, but overall in general). It will make the community much better in the greater picture. |
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Zerububle Elite user Poole 430 Posts |
Another false assumption. At no point have I advocated it accepted what he is alleged to have done. I don't really know anything more than what I read in the link.
My point is that you and others are discrediting his knowledge and services as a result. Criticise his marketing by all means but don't attack him on other grounds without evidence It's these sort of remarks that often make you look less online than I know you to be Mr H |
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Zerububle Elite user Poole 430 Posts |
Btw. I completely agree that this sort of nonsense should stop - that's a given 😉
I pride myself on having nothing after my name 😉 |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On Feb 29, 2016, Zerububle wrote: I am sorry is reading comprehension a problem? Seriously I ask be cause I never presumed you purchased anything. I simply was using the ridiculous justifications you put forth as a ideas that mammy will use them and have over the years. It is why the 3 card Monte is still a good con. Yes there is embarrassment and you might want to look in the mirror before you advise me of needing to be embarrassed. Please read carefully next time so you don't come off as, well, embarrassing.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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mindpunisher Inner circle 6132 Posts |
Richard has knowledge of Stage hypnosis which he has demonstrated online. However sales hypnosis doesn't appear to be his strong point. I have seen a lot of hypnotists over the years try pass themselves off as experts in other areas when its clear they aren't. Anyone can read a book and have "knowledge" but experience and skill comes from doing it and having a history of results which = genuine clients and genuine testimonials. And even genuine knowledge. He doesn't seem to have neither nor does his copy support what he is trying to claim. Of course I could be wrong and hes just a bad copywriter and he is hiding his real testimonials. Which would demonstrate someone who is not that great at sales so I wouldn't want to go "learn" from him. Sales and marketing go hand in hand.
There are many "hypnotists" who try and go the persuasion route and don't even understand the basics of hypnotic language. But have convinced themselves that they do. Much like many mentalists who learn effects and believe they have real psychological skills. |
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PhilDean Elite user 445 Posts |
Yet another innocent getting kicked to death by the bullies for having a compassionate opinion. Amazing.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Funny how these innocentsites invariably are low to no level of experience and invariably attack first, then cry when are answered in kind.
AMAZING.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Zerububle Elite user Poole 430 Posts |
Referring to me Danny?
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Zerububle Elite user Poole 430 Posts |
If so you're once again displaying your ignorant and frankly arrogant side again. Each time I come here I hold out hope that a few of you have better things to do with your time than lambast and bully anyone with a differing view or background to you. This has turned into the worst area of an already vile forum. Sad really, It could be a great resource for growth but its completely hindered by vile bullies like you. Try giving constructive remarks for a change
Im 40 with 20+ years experience as a performer, past as a psychiatric nurse, consultant lecturer for Imperial College LDN... but you're right... I know nothing and lack experience.... If you weren't directing your comment at me then I apologies.... for that bit |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Why stock around if it is so bad?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Zerububle Elite user Poole 430 Posts |
I don't - I pop by occasionally
Having looked through a few threads it appears evident that the common denominator in these negative posts is you (and a couple of others). Im sure you'll fail to see this and reply with a self congratulatory retort... unfortunately I may not get chance to see it for a while. If you, and others like you, stepped back from this forum and allowed others to ask questions and give opinions and ideas without constant criticism this forum may flourish again. I'm pretty confident many would agree Think I'll post this as a stand alone thread and see what others think |
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