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MagieByAntony
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What cards do you choose for this effect? High or low? Do you have a prefered Jonah card? Do you think that a certain combination of cards arouses more/less suspicion than another?

I personally use 3 kings, 3 queens, 3 Tens and a black jack for the extra card. Thoughts?

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I use to do the Blessed Poker by Woody Aragon, which is a three-phase routine starting with 20 cards, and the final phase is with 10 cards.

My patter is related to "I will select high cards for the demo/effect in order to guarantee eye-catching combinations".

FYI, the final Jonah card is AS
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Alicauchy, where is Blessed Poker published?
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Woody's book, "A Book In English"
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I use the same cards as suggested by Harry Lorayne and later Darwin Ortiz.
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On Feb 9, 2016, magicthree wrote:
Woody's book, "A Book In English"


Sorry for disappearing. Now back from an intense week of work and almost no magic.

Yes, and also in some of his other books in spanish (just in case).
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3 kings, 3 deuces, 3 tens and. Queen of clubs
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Bob Farmer's book has a nice dissertation on this.
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Michael Weber's "TEN" is phenomenal, it has 10 completely different effects...
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I'll make it a variety of high value cards depending on what I'm feeling, and the spades, hearts, and diamonds for optimal visual appeal. Then I use an ace as the Jonah card, which makes them much more likely to take it when I allow them to peek before taking. This makes it slightly more likely that they'll realize what happens to whoever ends up with that card since the ace stands out more, but after countless goes this has never happened, and they take the ace about 95% of the time on peeking as long as it's the first or second round. If they don't I just mix up the cards and have them choose blindly.
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Because I use a half stack a lot I use a set from the second half (the mixed half) of the Tamariz stack so I use the three tens from this half H, S, D the three Jacks D, S, C the three Aces H, C, D and the King of Spades as the Johna because he blends in well with the Jacks.
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I started using the three phase one from Woody "Blessed Poker" (thanks magicthree and alicauchy). I uses 18 cards (not 20)... and you have some control on the three sets on the first two phases, but not the stranger (pretty much random due to some shuffling)... and in the third phase the Ace of Space is the stranger. It is a very nice routine where the spectator gets more and more choices as it advances, so each phase seems more fair than the previous one, but he still looses every time.
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What is the thinking behind the cards chosen? Visual appeal? Contrast? Am I missing something in just going for a mix of court and number, black and red?
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In Woody Aragon routine the first phase is a normal face down deal of 10 cards (2 hands of 5), but in the second part the spectator is given the chance of changing cards (first face down, then face up), in the third phase (last) the spectator chooses the cards he wants... so a little of psychology is used to ensure they get the stranger every time.
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In Woody Aragon routine the first phase is a normal face down deal of 10 cards (2 hands of 5), but in the second part the spectator is given the chance of changing cards (first face down, then face up), in the third phase (last) the spectator chooses the cards he wants... so a little of psychology is used to ensure they get the stranger every time.


He's such a clever guy. I'm not surprised.
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Ben Blau has another version where the cards are selected 'randomly' by the spectator and the magician from a full deck. I have not performed it yet, but it seems an interesting idea. It makes it look more fair than separating 10 cards from the beginning.
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I use the same cards as suggested by Harry Lorayne and later Darwin Ortiz.


Same as Vlad for me.
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On May 16, 2016, Terrible Wizard wrote:
What is the thinking behind the cards chosen? Visual appeal? Contrast? Am I missing something in just going for a mix of court and number, black and red?


Landmark answered this question before it was even asked Smile

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Bob Farmer's book has a nice dissertation on this.


The Bammo Ten Card Deal Dossier by Bob Farmer had a section starting on pg 19 (I believe) that dealt with several variations ie the Lorayne set (also used by Hartman, Ortiz and many others) He then goes into the thinking behind every card in the set (Or not in) and why. Then there are some scientific statistics as to what cards are commonly picked first when asked to name a card, visualize a card, remember a card even cards people "like better". He also explores 2 other stacks (science 1 and science 2) based on the research. I found this to be one of the most interesting chapters of the book.
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