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Rob Johnston
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Well...I just got back from a local rinky-dink dollar store. Yep...they had thumb tips. Can't go wrong with getting these for a dollar. But...it is too bad it is so cheap and openly available to the public.

I think this is one of the most exposed tricks ever.

So I guess, you just have to use caution with what tricks you do with this. And perform it so no one would suspect such things.
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Oh boy I can hear the knifes being sharpened and the other weapons being cleaned to go on the rampage over this! Smile but it is true many will.

Yes it is too bad when items are too well known. But the TT has been known for years and I have never been found out with it except for when I first started out of course. It is all in the way it is used.

Maybe I will have to check out the dollar stores in the Vegas area and snatch a bunch up for myself. Certainly a good deal.
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The average person will not go into a Dollar Store and buy a TT. That is why you don't see them at Wal-Mart--"As Seen On T.V.!!!

We assume too much from our spectators. The average layperson has no clue of what we do with a TT. If the average layperson bought a TT. and it came with a routine, they would still not catch on to what we are doing. If that layperson holds that big stupid hunk of flesh colored plastic in their hands, they cannot imagine that a decent magician would put it on their thumbs. A layperson cannot even imagine how it could be effectively invisible in the hands of a competent magician.
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What you said is true. What I said before was mostly because there are a lot of people on this forum who will be more than upset.

Actually there are more non magicians then you realize that do know about as they call it the fake thumb. But yes you are correct that a layman will have no idea how to use it correctly. Even if he or she does have a book with 100 tricks with a t.t. They are still more or less clueless on how to use it the right way or how much more can really be done with it.
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Do you think it is too much exposure to use Thumb tips as the final loads in a chop cup routine?

Oh darn I'm getting the threads mixed up.

Don't worry too much about it....Randy and Chris are quite correct and all other 'Good magicians' like them will have no trouble continuing to fry laymen with Thumb tips until the cows come home

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I used to see them in Stuckey's all along the highway. They were hanging from rack pack displays with "Cigarette Through the Handkerchief" on the card they were attached to. It used to upset me. It doesn't any more.

Nobody makes the connection if you do it right.
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This is quite correct.

Do you reckon you could vanish a regular vernet in a Kingsize? Or would you need a 'Vernet Larger man's size'

Stephen Tucker had a fantastic 'Magician fooler' using a Thumb Tip. It's in 'The Best of Spellbinder' if anyone can get hold of a copy.....It will be a tough search though.

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Deanx, are you talking about "Thumbsucker", by Martin Breese (p.77 of the Spell-Binder collection)? I got a great laugh reading that one, but have yet to try it out for real. Even from just reading it, I know it would have fooled me.

Actually, Martin Breese (www.martinbreese.com) is still selling the collection on his site (it's under the heading "New Books"). As for me, I got my copy on eBay.

Cheers,

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Yeh, I have seen thumb tips too in toy shops and things, I use to think it will be overly exposed as well but after working at a magic shop a while back I realised this is not the case since I almost demo this more than 10 times a day and no one has said a thing about it.
Rob Johnston
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No one buys them. I think I was the first to notice the store had them lol.

They are from a generic cheap brand of maker, but you know, they actually looked pretty decent. They seemed to match my skin tone just fine. I will have to pick some up.

can't go wrong for a dollar.
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For a buck, stock up! I agree that your typical dollar store shopper is not going to make the connection as to how these are really used. When I first got into magic, I saw a kid's magic set that had a TT in it and I thought that was about the stupidest thing I had ever seen. Little did I know....

I actually have to thank my local dollar store for getting me into magic. That was where I bought my first set of "Magic Cards"! It was a cheap strip/marked deck. But after a $1 investment, I was hooked.
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Dear Cy

Yes that's it 'Thumbsucker' pretty good as a magician fooler.

I always thought it was a Tucker contribution though. Thanks for the correction.

Shame they didn't ever release 'The Best of Spellbinder Vol 2 isn't it? Some very useful ideas in there.

Dean
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I've always wanted to use a thumbtip, but never have. Every supplier that I use has endless arrays to choose from, but I've just never made the leap. I need to buy one, if for no other reason than to look at it and think about what can be with it, and plop it into a routine somewhere to see what happens.
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Hey WildStone, a thumbtip is GREAT in a bar setting (oh the possibilities)!! It's excellent to use in the "transition" periods, if you want to get your spec's mind off of coins for awile. You're right, there are endless TTs to choose from. Try Vernet's classic version for an intro, along w/ "101 tricks w/ a Thumbtip" booklet.
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You know what...
If TT are so well known.
How come no one ever catches me or suspects a TT.
Ok, it's the presentation.
But it's nothing that any other magician with the skill to misdirect could do.
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As long as they don't start selling good routines along with the TT I would not think it would make too much difference.

I remember the first TT I bought, a Vernet and when I opened the package the first thought trough my mind was 'Ripped-off again!'

That big plastic thing would not fool a blind wombat. Later that week I was fooling around with it, trying to find a use for it when a friend stopped by. I was griping about my latest waste of money to 'hide something in my hand'. He asked to see it so I slipped on the TT and sheepishly held out my hand to show how dumb I had been.

He examined my hand, front and back, from about a foot away. He told me he did not see anything, I thought he was yanking me and pulled off the thumb-tip. His eyes bulged and he recoiled backwards. I don't know to this day what in his mind-set made the thing so invisible.

It convinced me to give it a second try. I bought a book and used it ever since.
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Amen to that! The TT is a far deadlier weapon than I had originally thought. The owner of the first magic shop I ever went into fooed me about 5 times in a row with one. And then I said... "Oh... jeez... do you sell those? Yes, I'll take one of those." Never again will I scoff at the mighty TT!
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While the TT is & always will be overexposed, it is still great when used properly. I wish I had a dollar for every time I have heard "I thought I had you! I thought your were using a hollow thumb, but I could see that you were not"
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At a lecture last year John Carney told us about something from his youth, when he was just starting out in magic. He said he used to do 2 tricks with a thumb tip, one with the vanishing hanky and one with the vanishing lit cigartte. Anyway he had all his buddies fooled, many times, until one day he reached into his pocket for something and the tt fell out with the hanky sticking out of it... he knew he was totally busted. He said his pals said, "aha we know how you make that hanky disappear...but we have NO IDEA how you vanish that cigarette!! how do you do it??!" Or something like that. You gotta hear Mr Carney tell it.

The point is that if you do something well, even if the obvious answer is right in front of people, they still might not notice.

TTs are brilliant. Even if you only ever leart to vanish a lit cigarette, you will convince people that you are a freaking wizard. When you do a cig vanish for magicians, though, use a pull and do all the same actions as with a tt vanish, but DON'T ditch your hands to your pocket - keep 'em out in the open and proceed to something else - it'll freak them out. They'll be staring at your thumb wondering where you bought that realistic tt and when you're going to ditch it...
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If a tip is used properly, it will fool those who have a casual knowledge of its use. I've used it behind the counter of a magic shop and beginning magicians swear that I couldn't have used a tip for a hanky vanish. It's amazing what a Ramsey subtlety can accomplish.
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