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I looked at the places that tend to have instruction sheet collections available, but haven't found this one. Magician and volunteer both fold a square sheet of paper and both make the same cuts - the volunteer opens up their paper and has a square frame and a square piece, while the magician has a square frame, but their cut-out piece is a circle. Does anyone have the instructions for this? Thanks!
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Never seen a "you do as I do routine for it", here is Ken Brooke's Squircle as sold by Harry Staney and Louis Tannen's years ago.

https://tricksupply.com/product/squircle-ken-brooke/

It might be in the book Fetsching Magic by Robert Spencer, I have the book but it is put away right now, so I cannot check if your newspaper thing is in it, but I don't remember reading it.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S8884
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Bill - thanks - I do have Squircle (always loved that one), but Fetsching Magic sounds like a good place to look for this, so thanks for that idea. I think the trick was marketed by Gene Gordon.
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Yes, Gene Gordon marketed and sold most if not all of Hen Fetsch's magic. Another place to look is the out of print book by Gene Gordon, David Ginn published it, but has never done a 2nd printing.
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I do have the Ginn "Magical Legacy" right in front of me Smile Didn't seem to be in that one. But there's a lot of other good material and lots of good stories in it.
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If you use the Sqircle Gimmick and the spectator does not, doesn't that produce the same or similar effect?
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Wasn't there a patter book of Hen Fetsch ideas or was that someone else.
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I believe you could hand out both the Squaround papers while I know you can't with the Squircle since I do that one. I don't remember the Hen Fetsch patter book, though I do have "Lots of Lawson" which is the same idea.
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I have Lot's of Lawton scanned in PDF format, through the book out after I scanned it; on page 18 it has your similar idea. No real patter, as is mentioned. You could use the patter on page 3, and include the spectator, and say, He got an A.

For what you want, I believe it is in the original instructions at the bottom of the instruction sheet, that is opening the cut out and get a different shape. I don't see how you can give a gimmicked sheet to a spectator, unless he is in on it and knows what to do.

If I read you initial post correctly, I don't see how you can have the spectator cut a circle and get a square when he opens it.

I think he other book was called Funny Stuff or something like that. If the foot lockers did not weight a hundred pounds, I could get it out more quickly. Maybe it was Frank Lane, been a while since I read it.
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That's correct, the spectator cuts a square and gets a square and it's the magician who gets the circle. Let's take a look at Lawton... Ah, there's the Squircle idea. I did see a photo of the actual Squaround and it's a totally different set-up for the magician's sheet, which I tried working out myself. That being said, this does get the same result. The Squaround was on the big auction site recently and I should've bid on it, but didn't. I like having the actual tricks/directions, so that's why I'm looking for this specific one even though there are definitely other methods like Squircle for achieving the same thing.

Hope you're having a nice Spring, Bill, and as always, I really appreciate your info!
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In the Squricle instructions, the additional tips, it says you can do a square to circle if you like.

I just don't know, because this was before my time. I did not discover the local magic store until 1958, and this trick is much older then that time frame, besides the local magic dealer would not carry or sell a trick like this, because he could not just pick it up and demonstrate it.

I never heard of Squaround, maybe because I wasn't born yet. Smile There was a dice trick by Supreme Magic that when the magician pounded a tube into the top of a box that contained the jumbo die, the box clifted and then the tube, showing a round die, that just fit in the can.

I to like to get "original" information on a trick. If I had wanted and seen that, I would have bid until I got it. That's just me though.

Sorry, I could not help further.
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Bill - you certainly helped a lot, and I appreciate it.
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SQUIRCLE has been mistakenly credited to Ken Brooke, is actually KEN BOWELL'S.
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Harry Stanley advertised it in his catalogue in the 1950s,and I think It was called (Squarcle) invented by Ken Bowell.
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Squircle is great and a lot of fun, but is a different trick. It's Squaround that I'm trying to find Smile
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Okay, Tannen's got it wrong by accident or on purpose, or maybe he printer messed it up.

You can't believe everything you read. Smile
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Dr, Hachenbush, while looking for something else, I ran across this effect by Devin Knight, it reads exactly like what you have described.

I is called, Around the Square. I suppose Devin Knight found the original and re-released it.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S11504
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On Apr 14, 2016, Bill Hegbli wrote:
Dr, Hachenbush, while looking for something else, I ran across this effect by Devin Knight, it reads exactly like what you have described.

I is called, Around the Square. I suppose Devin Knight found the original and re-released it.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S11504


No my method is different from the original method. It doesn't have the angle problems the original had.
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[b]I would like to set the record straight, I just was watching the DVD Visions of Ken Brooke, in it "Squircle" is demonstrated. Pat Page narrates the videos. He states that Squircle is Ken Brookes trick.

There was another "Cut and Restored Newspaper" trick using a knife to cut around a newspaper folded in fourths. Pat Page states this was a Ken Bowell effect. So, I would say that Pat Page is correct.
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I enjoyed reading down this thread! I could "see" this trick playing very well in school shows (here comes the BUT!)::: I think it would have required half the weekend, prepping enough props for the following week!
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