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Magic KL Inner circle 2571 Posts 
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Looks like there is a new release from Rick Lax:
http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/6894 The description doesn't say much, but most of Rick's tricks are great. Any reviews, or at least more info about this. Thanks in advance! |
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Karl M Inner circle 1276 Posts
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I know what is the Mark Eldson trick so I I think I know what this is but I will wait for the price to be dropped by penguin then I will buy it definitely
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Joe Roberts Special user 863 Posts
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Looks like he added a hacky joke to Mark Elsdon's effect that he does in his penguin lecture. Get Mark's penguin lecture. It's not much more expensive and there is so much more material.
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jakeroeber New user 24 Posts
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On Apr 8, 2016, Joe Roberts wrote: Joe, Im sorry to say your comment sounds quite idiotic. Rick took a very small idea within Mark's lecture, had conversation WITH Mark, and was given permission to sculpt this idea into a full deceptive routine. Furthermore, Rick needed to disguise the addition, and one way to do so was with humor. So, rather than speculating, you should probably review the material, and learn the trick before putting in some sort of un-educated opinion. Lest we forget that the jokes that are labeled as "hack" are so because they are effective and everyone uses them. There's a reason certain material is used universally....because it works. |
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hornet Veteran user Herts, England 374 Posts
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The trailer is a bit limited on detail, but Mark and Rick always put out quality products!
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1855 Posts
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This is FAAANTASTIC! I will be picking this up too after the P puts in on sale.
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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mike donoghue Inner circle 1299 Posts
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Excellent Rick.
You have taken a principle & made it into a very strong performance piece. The routine itself has comedy, multiple audience participation & a very strong reveal at the end. This is up to your usual very high standard. No pipedreams here. Another winner from Rick. Mike Donoghue |
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Michael Dustman Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 1223 Posts
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On Apr 10, 2016, mike donoghue wrote: Agreed. Great piece and couldn't have said it any better than Mike. |
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SleepyMagic Inner circle Hopefully I'll pass my exams with 1646 Posts
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On Apr 8, 2016, Karl M wrote: Karl....what have I told you about buying things.... Sleepy |
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bowers Inner circle Oakboro N.C. 7024 Posts
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This is a fairly good effect.Based on a
principle most mentalist will know.Rick has disguised it in a way so as to not be able to backtrack easily.I like it and will use it also. Todd |
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Magic KL Inner circle 2571 Posts
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It's on sale today! !
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Joe Roberts Special user 863 Posts
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On Apr 8, 2016, jakeroeber wrote: It's odd that you say my post sounded "quite idiotic" considering Rick makes a point in the download to say he's added a hacky joke to Elsdon's trick. That's LITERALLY the word he uses. But thank you for your post. It will give me something to point to when people ask what is wrong with magic. Arguing we should use hack lines "because they work" is just about the laziest defense of corny, pathetic magic presentations that there is. Regarding this trick: THE GOOD As I said, if you don't have Elsdon's lecture, you should pick that up instead. It has most everything you need to do the effect. (That's why they don't show a full demo on Penguin. Anyone with Elsdon's lecture would be able to figure it out without any more explanation) However if you want to explore this particular routine in more detail, I think this is definitely worth the investment at the sale price. It does prevent the backtracking that CAN happen with Elsdon's effect. There are ways to do it without the corny joke, if hacky jokes aren't your style. It's probably a stronger and more cohesive demonstration if you do it with a second phase that ISN'T that joke. So I would recommend swapping in something else. THE BAD It's clear based on the explanation that this is NOT a routine Rick has actually performed much. There is a situation you need to account for about 20% of the time that he doesn't mention at all. In fact the situation occurs in Rick's hypothetical demonstration of the trick at 15 minutes in and he doesn't even notice it then. But if things played out as he was actually suggesting the trick would have failed. So you'll need to account for that. At a $20 stand-alone trick, it's something that should have been addressed in the explanation. |
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ppw New user 16 Posts
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There is very little information in the trailer... Is this good for a large audience?
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Joe Roberts Special user 863 Posts
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On Apr 11, 2016, ppw wrote: You want 4 or 5 people to take part in the effect, not much more than that or you have a greater chance of it failing. The audience itself can be of any size beyond that. Quote:
On Apr 11, 2016, Joe Roberts wrote: My mistake. It's a $15 trick. |
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R.E. Byrnes Inner circle 1206 Posts
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"Lest we forget that the jokes that are labeled as "hack" are so because they are effective and everyone uses them."
No; most are just crappy jokes and people like you mistake fake, sympathy laughs for the real thing. |
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TuneHV Inner circle New York 2067 Posts
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On Apr 11, 2016, Joe Roberts wrote: I do not see how this could possibly fail 20% of the time. |
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Blindside785 Inner circle Olympia, WA 4541 Posts
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For the sale price it's spot on, very excited to use this.
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Jared Inner circle Rhode Island, USA 1579 Posts
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If you read my review posts than you know I'm a big supporter of Rick Lax's releases. However, I have several issues with "Close Call". Granted, I am not a magic/mentalism historian but the basic premise of this effect does not belong to Mark Elsdon. It is based on Bruce Bernstein's "Croisset Affair" and Ted Karmilovich's "The Target". But I have no idea which mentalist thought of it first. The only difference in Rick's presentation is the elimination of the NW work. Moreover, the "No" gag should be credited to Syd Bergson. Richard Osterlind uses this ploy to maximum effect during his Mental Epic presentation from his "Live without a Net" DVD set.
Secondly, many top mentalists close their act with "Croisset" or "Target", and so seeing this performed close-up with index cards really feels watered-down by comparison. The routine itself is okay but I'd probably would never perform it because I have been thinking about adding the "Croisset affair" to my small stage act. Some may disagree about my feelings with this release but that's okay...we're all entitled to our own opinions. |
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MadisonH Inner circle 1754 Posts
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On Apr 11, 2016, Jared wrote: I agree with you. And I find "Croisset affair" to be a much more effective way to use this method. It impacts the audience on a much greater level. |
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Jared Inner circle Rhode Island, USA 1579 Posts
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Madison, I agree- the difference is like 'night and day'. Btw- I want to congratulate you on your excellent "Bang Chair Test" release. I wish that more creator's invested the amount of time and energy that you did to develop such a beautifully detailed routine!
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