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Jeff_Mash Veteran user Bay Area, California 328 Posts |
Just wanted to give everyone a heads up on this latest pre-release coming from MMS. It's the latest DVD from Eric Chien featuring his coin outstanding magic. Release date is Thursday the 16th:
http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/-p-22310.html Price: $24.95 Description: Eric Chien has been impressing top coin workers around the world with his performances of incredible sleight-of-hand magic. Some are saying he has created the best vanish in the world of a single coin. He has spent years working and creating the most amazing visual magic using a single coin and is now ready to share it with other magicians. What looks like camera trickery can actually be performed without any gimmicks and only one coin. COIN is the first time Eric has agreed to release any of his original handlings to the magic community and in this DVD he teaches his own incredible coin vanish as well as signature routines such as Dollar Coin to Signed Card and his handling on Coin To Cigarette which has fooled the best magicians in the world. This DVD will also inspire you to take his work and combine it with other routines that you already perform. INCLUDED ON THIS DVD: CHIEN VANISH - the most startling coin vanish that will change the way you perform BLINK - instant vanish of a coin - perhaps the quickest in the world COIN TO CARD - a signed card is lost in the deck and a coin instantly changes to card COIN TO CIGARETTE - coin visibly turns into a cigarette SPELLBOUND ADDITION - visual changes for any spellbound routine THROW CHANGE - visual turn a coin into a finger ring or coin 3-FLY ENDING - a visual ending for any 3 Fly routine COIN TO CARD BOX - a coin visually vanishes and appears inside a card box "By far the best retention ever created, a true work of art and mastery. This is how magic should look." - Michael Afshin "Eric Chien's Coin to Cigarette is beautifully executed!" - Shin Lim
Your friend in magic,
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RNK Inner circle 7493 Posts |
Very impressive! Great work!
RNK
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Ceierry Inner circle Europe 1578 Posts |
Outstanding
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Magic KL Inner circle 2564 Posts |
Very cool effects!
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la-do New user 12 Posts |
Beautifully done !
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alexlatorre Regular user Barcelona 187 Posts |
Looks amazing!
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jamo425 Loyal user 298 Posts |
Finally some coin magic! I almost thought this was gimmicked when I first saw it, I'm so glad this is a sleight. Consider me sold!
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Bande Elite user 429 Posts |
Assuming this is pretty advanced stuff -- looks beautiful. How knuckle busting is it?
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MadisonH Inner circle 1752 Posts |
Whoa... How in the world could it possibly be done that quick?
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
His stuff looks good. Why haven't I heard much about Eric until now? Who's been hiding him?
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Legendary Wizard Inner circle The Wizard , The Legend 162,885,947,3659, 1694 Posts |
The retention vanish that can be done without covering , woah ~
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emyers99 Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 4741 Posts |
Wow. I'm not a coin guy, but that retention was incredible. As was the spellbound addition.
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Legendary Wizard Inner circle The Wizard , The Legend 162,885,947,3659, 1694 Posts |
I was considering this , but I feared that I may just give up before I got it down to that speed . It looks incredible , but how's the difficulty ?
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Dominic Reyes Inner circle Got to a gig too early so wrote his 1429 Posts |
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On Jun 10, 2016, Magician560 wrote: That retention of vision is wonderful! You already know this, but anyway... As with all coin work, it's going to need a commitment from you to put in regular practice over a long period of time. It's a 'project' for you rather than a quick fix trick to play with. Sometimes, when people ask 'How difficult is it?' they really mean 'Will this require any effort from me?' It involves holding a coin and slowly repeating a series of moves, over and over again until it becomes smooth and second nature. The movements are easy as long as you can hold a coin, it's not difficult to do, if you do it over and over again until it's second nature. It's all about if you are prepared to give it consistent, regular attention to drill the methods. I've found the key for building up speed is to slow it right down during the practice drill phase. Slower the better. Allow speed to develop all by itself. Slow means that you will hardwire the best technique right from the start. As far as giving up... The enemy of practice is 'choice'. Most practice effort ends before it gets results because people jump to something else instead. The answer may be to just commit to ONE item for a period of time as you drill it. Just pick one thing you REALLY want to learn and set that as a goal. Then drill it(perhaps 20 times, twice a day, every day for 20 days, then assess and repeat) There's no getting around the fact that stuff like this is skill development. It takes effort and time, but the rewards and feeling of excitment as you develop, makes it totally worth it. If you would like to learn more about this. There's a free ebook here: http://magictricks.magicshop.co.uk/magic......ks-ebook Hope this helps you Dominic
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Legendary Wizard Inner circle The Wizard , The Legend 162,885,947,3659, 1694 Posts |
Thanks for the deep insight , I would assume then that the move manageable with determination and time . Sadly the only free time I had currently is only late in the night and during road junctions when the traffic light shows red . But I do understand what you mean , I'll be pick this up and try to squeeze some time out between my gigs , practicing this seems to be a good thing to spend my time on while I travel in between them . The practice methods you've mentioned is definitely valid and works well , taking practice sessions and starting slow will burn the move to mind and become a second nature . I've been learning the ways of mastering down moves through the hard way when I first started , now there's even a free e-book on practice tips , the newer generation magicians have an easier job to do . Good job for making such useful tools .
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Mejais New user 88 Posts |
Sadly iam only interested in the Coin to Cigarette effect, I guess there is no way to get only this move?
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Bande Elite user 429 Posts |
Dominic while I agree in parts with your comment, I disagree that "how difficult is it" = "will it require effort from me". I think the question/answer is far more nuanced than that. As an amateur I am trying to understand the level of effort it will require from me. There are knuckle busting moves that will take many months of practice to look smooth and that is not a worthwhile trade for me. On the other hand there are beautiful moves that require a few days/weeks of practice and that is a trade I will make. It bothers me when people equate acking difficulty levels to laziness. All magic if it is going to look good takes effort on the part of the performer -- even self working tricks are a lot more impressive if you work on them (watch Rick Lax do something simple and watch a young kid on youtube do the same thing -- the entertainment value is massively different). So, the most helpful answers to me are ones that give context -- e.g. this in the DL/EC level of difficulty vice a muscle pass etc. Obviously this is subjective as well as everyone finds some moves easier than others -- also a guesstimate of how long someone relatively new to coins is also a useful metric. Other fields do this -- look at music tabs they often rate things on difficulty and it gives the purchaser a reasonable expectation.
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RNK Inner circle 7493 Posts |
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On Jun 10, 2016, Bande wrote: Learning a move, whether it's knuckle busting or not and whether your new to coin magic or not, in days, weeks or months has nothing to do with "the move" but everything to do with the learning curve of the student. Dominic was spot on with his post. No one can tell you if a move is going to take YOU a day, week(s) or month(s) to look beautiful. Even if a move is one of the easier ones to perform.
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jamo425 Loyal user 298 Posts |
I have to agree with dominic as well. I believe any move, regardless of difficulty, all depends on your own personal level of commitment. If you don't WANT to learn something all that bad, chances are you will probably give up before seeing results. Really it comes down to your desire to learn something, and your commitment. It's the difference between, "I'll give this a try and see what happens, or saying I hope I can learn this" compared to "I WILL learn this, I am going to do it no matter what".
I actually just heard a really great quote recently that pertains to mastering any skill regardless of what it is. "In order to achieve a level of mastery, you need love and obession" -Jeff sheridan. I whole heartedly agree with this. You need to have love (and/or desire) for whatever it is your doing, or else what is the point? What's your motivation? Also there has to be a certain degree of obsession, it's what keeps you going. Saying not only that you will learn this, but you HAVE to learn this, and not caring how long it takes. That's why for me personally, I never let difficulty be a factor. It's just a matter of what I want to learn and what I don't. You just have to put the time and effort in. I agree that everyones learning curve is different, but with enough time and effort, anyone can get there. Remember, repetition is the mother of skill. |
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Ray Haining Inner circle Hot Springs, AR 1907 Posts |
It's also important to know your limitations.
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