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Jordini Inner circle 2765 Posts |
Hey everyone. I'm baking a cake in my dovepan and I want to throw in some lighter fluid and a match for a nice effect before the lid goes on. I was worrying if starting a fire in my dovepan would warp/scorch/ruin my dovepan or "lid" if you catch my drift.
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JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
Why not just use flashpaper? It's a more visual "fire" effect. I used lighter fluid years ago as a kid in my chick pan. It melted the lacquer finish around the edges of the lid.
Jim
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Ron Reid Inner circle Phoenix, Arizona 2732 Posts |
Hi Jordini:
The fire will blacken the inside of the pan (but not the inside of the lid because of the gimmick). It should not warp or crack anything. I did the dove pan for years, and didn't mind the blackened look because I thought it made it look more like a real cooking pan. I have used flash pan as James mentioned and that works well too. More expensive though. Ron |
Jordini Inner circle 2765 Posts |
I'll have to check about flash paper. It doesn't give the same flame I'm quite looking for, but I will def. not use lighter fluid now! I think I'll just use flash paper as a gag, trying to light it, but having it dissapear before it gets to the pan.
If I were to have someone bake a cake into the load pan directly, how would that effect it? (The load pan) Would it burn and get all black and nasty? |
A C Spectre New user Connecticut 75 Posts |
Jordini,
I wouldn't try actually baking a cake in the load pan. I doubt it would be able to withstand the prolonged heat without doing severe damage to the pan. Why not simply bake a cake that is large enough so that you can place the load pan upside down on it, then using the pan as a guide, cut out a round cake that will fit snugly inside the pan? If the cake does not come up flush with the edge of the pan you could even frost it and write a birthday message on it. I think you would need to take a few extra minutes to clean the pan up after a show if you try this. You may also want to double check with parents if you are doing this at a birthday party. They may not appreciate a cake from you if they have spent time and/or money on their own cake and you may have children in attendance with certain food allergies that could be triggered by certain kinds of cake. A C Spectre |
Jordini Inner circle 2765 Posts |
I was thinking of doing this for the SF stage magic competition and inviting Joe (the shop owner hosting the show) up on stage for a tast). I thought it would create a better illusion than the fake sponge cake that you can buy for the pan.
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A C Spectre New user Connecticut 75 Posts |
Jordini,
That sounds great. If you have a double load pan you may even consider producing an actual meal first and then the cake for dessert. A C Spectre |
Doug Howe New user Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada 51 Posts |
I'd stick with using Flash Paper, rather than lighter fluid. I've heard of a few accidents with Lighter fluid. There was a magic illusion program on TV where they interviewed Jay Sankey, and he told a story about one of his first shows. He used too much fluid, and he was producing his cat, which was meowing loudly, and he ended up spilling the lit fluid. Not a good performance.
I use the double load pan, and produce something unusual first (like a kid's soccer ball, which compresses nicely), then the cake. The flashpaper may leave a little blackness in the bottom of your pan, which can be cleaned. -=> Rubber Dougie <=- |
magic 12376 Regular user Wilkes-Barre Pa 116 Posts |
I have never used anything but lighter fluid for the dove pan. Using too much fluid, or enough that it would slosh out of the pan seems like lack of common sense to me. Fold a paper towel in four, place it in your dove pan and saturate it with only enough fluid to make the towel wet. Do not let the fluid pool up in the pan. If you want a more permanent solution buy a piece of wick ala fire wallet,book, etc. and glue it into the bottom of your pan. Again use only enough fluid to wet the wick.
Good luck, Ronald R. Romiski |
Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
Heard they are requiring a permit here where I live to do fire effects........FYI
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Jordini Inner circle 2765 Posts |
I performed w/ the lighter fluid. It worked great!! I just sprayed a bit in the bottom of the pan an lit it. (One of the kids insisted I put in frosting so I told him I had instant frosting....in paper form. I lit some flash paper that dissapeared before it hit the pan. I told him it was instant.) The pan was fine but after the show (when the load was removed) it reeked of lighter fluid, and I had to wash it out at home. Otherwise, everything was smooth and perfect.
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