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danaruns
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Hi. Is Larry Jennings' chop cup routine a commercial routine? I learned it by watching a video and deconstructing it, but last night when I performed it at a party, another magician said about it, "There's nothing wrong with performing commercially sold routines." What?? Is it sold commercially? I've never seen it.
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Danarums:

I am not aware of Larry Jennings Chop Cup routine having been sold commercially at any time in the past.

You may consider looking at these two links for more information:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......c=485259
http://www.larryjennings.com/print.htm

On a side note...one of the greatest thrills of my life as a Magician was having a friendly "argument" with Larry at the Magic Castle about the best version of Open Travelers...of course he said that Vernon's version was the best......I countered with "no....I think that Don England's version....called "Open Travelers Plus"...published in Best Of Friends was the best...

Rich Bloch told me that "No one ever argues with Larry Jennings about card effects here at The Castle..........not only did you argue with him.....you WON".....I loved it!!

Here's a YouTube link to Don's performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTcORp6GxvY
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Actually, the Larry Jennings routine was published in Genii Magazine back in the 1970's, and an another version several months later. It is also published in his book, one by Jeff Busby and the hardbound by Richard Kauffman.

Ken Brooke added much of the Jennings' material in his routine that is published as part of the Ken Brooke Series through Stevens Magic.

It not your fault, you were just born to late to know this, unless you do some research and subscribe to Genii Magazine and search their archives. If you do not search you will not find what you are looking for on the Internet.

Yes, it is only in print, no video instruction. That was before ease of video was available to the masses, and the Internet.

Sorry that you had to encounter a person like that, did you ask him to show his unique Chop Cup Routine, that is totally original.
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Larry's routine was largely based on Ron Wilson's Chop Cup routine.
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I have it in his lecture notes somewhere. It seems to me there were several places it was released.
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It is also taught on DVD.
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Wow. I had no idea. For being offered commercially so many times, it's absolutely impossible to find on the interwebs. Weird. Magic, I guess. Smile

I posted the question just because another magician mentioned it to me and I was curious if he was right. I like the routine, so I learned it by spending the time to watch Larry's performance over and over, and deconstructing it one move at a time. I'm not even sure I would have preferred to learn it by buying it. There is something about having learned it by figuring it out move-by-move that makes me feel more connected to it. I have made the routine my own, but I still feel that connection whenever I perform it, and I was a little bothered to hear that it was sold commercially. Oh, well. live and learn. Smile
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Maybe the context or whatever made it otherwise, but it sure sounds like the other magician was just being a jerk.

Most magicians would not classify something as a "commercially sold routine" just because it's been published somewhere.

This other magician performs only effects he invented himself, does he?
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Larry Jenning's chop cup routine is also on L&L World's Greatest Chop Cups routines.

Not sure why ANY magician would be critical of performing published routines in ANY venue.

Seems kind of foolish to ignore good routines that have been developed over the years. Kind of like changing Romeo & Juliet just to be different ...

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Just to be clear, he was not being a jerk. There is some context to it, as we were discussing performing for a particular group of magician judges in a specific context. I'm sorry I made him sound like a jerk. He's the world's nicest magician.
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On Jul 13, 2016, danaruns wrote:
He's the world's nicest magician.


Oh? I (ahem) don't recall us having that conversation, but if you say so ...

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Anyway, most magicians would not consider the LJCC a "commercially sold routine", they'd save that term for The Latest From Sansminds or something like that. And congratulations on figuring it out on your own.
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It's also taught by James Swain in 21st Century Card Magic.
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Jennings' Chop Cup routine is published in Busby's On Card and Coin Handling. This is a small but great book on Larry's magic. It's also in the A Private Lesson DVD. This is a disk all Jennings fans should own.
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On Jul 13, 2016, 55Hudson wrote:
Larry Jenning's chop cup routine is also on L&L World's Greatest Chop Cups routines.

Not sure why ANY magician would be critical of performing published routines in ANY venue.

Seems kind of foolish to ignore good routines that have been developed over the years. Kind of like changing Romeo & Juliet just to be different ...

Hudson


I have the L&L WGM Chop Cup DVD...some nice routines on it...
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On Jul 12, 2016, 55Hudson wrote:
Larry Jenning's chop cup routine is also on L&L World's Greatest Chop Cups routines.

Not sure why ANY magician would be critical of performing published routines in ANY venue.

Seems kind of foolish to ignore good routines that have been developed over the years. Kind of like changing Romeo & Juliet just to be different ...

Hudson


"Youse" have said it, "real good", Hudson!
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On Aug 26, 2016, Dick Oslund wrote:
Quote:
On Jul 12, 2016, 55Hudson wrote:
Larry Jenning's chop cup routine is also on L&L World's Greatest Chop Cups routines.

Not sure why ANY magician would be critical of performing published routines in ANY venue.

Seems kind of foolish to ignore good routines that have been developed over the years. Kind of like changing Romeo & Juliet just to be different ...

Hudson


"Youse" have said it, "real good", Hudson!


Also agree.
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