Excellent product. I bought this on a personal recommendation, and it is gold!

The speed at which this can be performed is my favorite part. Literally, you can have the date in seconds.

You know, I've never been that interested in zodiac or birthday reveals. As such, I kinda ignored this one. Then, Sudo performed it for me -- over text -- and I really have to say it's impressive. So streamlined and direct and there's really nothing fishy. He also had a really cool subtlety when performing for people that might have some knowledge of numerology. Not my place to tip it, but it all adds up to something that is really hard to backtrack.


On another note... I have no idea how he figured this out! I consider myself a pretty logical person, but Sudo really has a gift for seeing things on another level.

I have to think that Eclipse is going to set the standard for the propless birthday/zodiac reveal

Eclipse is very direct and very practical, great thinking Sudo. Glad I purchased it.

I can honestly say Eclipse is the standard all others will be judged. If you know of anything more simple and direct to reveal a birthday I would be very surprised.

Stalking. Best I can imagine.

Facebook

But I can use this on random people, or those "others" who don't use such services (including myself.) Heck someone in a country with no internet could have this performed.

Well I'd personally first go with social networks, but if that is not an option, Eclipse is my 'go-two'. Sometimes though, I just say !@#$ it and use my psychic powers to find out people's birthdays...

I tried to send a PM but your box is still full.

I received this lovely process as a gift from Sudo a while back. I also have several versions of IS. I have a question about this.

In some earlier posts it is said that this can be done over the phone, etc. So, in this case, do you just ask for their astrological number? That seems like a good way to go to me. Because if you're going to go to the trouble of a p**k, why not just get the exact DOB, instead of going through the process of creating a number?

Aaron Alexander (Zodiac Killer) has a good way to get such a number and then reframe to distance from getting the number. I've been thinking that a combination of these two ideas might be the best way to go -- and it's completely propless.

Does this make sense? Am I missing anything here? Thank you.

That's a good question, and one I am happy to answer.

The idea of them simply giving you the number is discussed in the pdf. I do it by reducing the number to a single digit by adding the digits together to put even further distance into it.

If you are in an environment where time is a factor, the standard method where they write the star number down is preferred. If they wrote down their whole birthday instead of just an apparently random number, it seems to be far less impressive. Performed properly, people fail to realize that all of this information could be so easily derived from this number.

But lately, I mostly perform this with the verbal (prop-less) option by having them reduce the "star number" to a single digit by adding the two digits together. You can then give them a quick character reading based on the actual numerological aspects of that single digit OR..you can convert that digit into a letter and use that for a reading using Richard Webster's magnificent A-Z system. By this point, they have completely forgotten about the star number.

I now have them imagine their residence and the insides of it as I begin to describe numerous details of their home quite accurately by using Ian Rowland's "Home Astral Projection". Taking it even further, I have them imagine walking over to a calendar in their house (you'd be amazed at how many people have one on their fridge )and have them place their finger on the day of their birthday. I now describe which row of the calendar it is on and then give them the day of their birthday! Finally, they are asked to look out of a window in their house, and I describe what the weather looks like outside, and then name the month of their birthday too!

This presentation flows very nicely and is very bewildering for the participant. In fact, I performed this for someone today and they were just speechless. In summary, I gave them a quick character reading, described numerous details of their residence with almost 100% accuracy, and then named their exact birthday! To say that I couldn't follow this up with anything further would be an understatement.

Hopefully this will give you some food for thought. If you ( or anybody else) has any questions or would like some help, please feel free to contact me here or through my website.

Best of the season to you!

It's amazing what a real pro can do with a routine like this. It's certainly, as most effects should be viewed, a tool in the tool box. It isn't until they are strung together like DNA that they become valuable. Kind of like paint on a pallet. Art would have been pretty boring if each picture was the same color.

Way to go Sudo. Happy Holidays!

That was a very helpful and informative answer, Sudo. Thanks for your time. This has definitely given me lots to think about. Happy New Year, my friend!

@ John C: Thank-you for your kind words John.

@ Second Sight: You're most welcome, and I'm glad to be of help.

Best of the season to you both (and to everyone else as well.)

I would love to buy a copy of Eclipse.
Is it still available? Where?

I would just contact Sudo.

Could you let me know how to do this?

I've tried his website and PM through MC a dozen times and cannot figure this out.

Thanks,
Larry

He's a secret. He'll be back. You can't force it.

You may contact me directly through email: talkwithsudo@gmail.com

It seems to me very optimistic to assume that everyone will simply forget the mathematical process. I can certainly say that I wouldn't. And it's quite an easy path back to unraveling the secret. Will some not recall? Sure. But, I simply do not assume it to be the case. People think about things after you've left.

I think methods like this and IS are wonderful to explore, but I also think many are fooling themselves into believing that "with time misdirection and other layers, no one will ever recall that they gave you the information" is some kind of law of magic that can never fail. Yes, they sometimes will. Not all, but many certainly will. That's why I think obtaining the information secretly is the only way for this to be absolutely fooling. Of course, as noted earlier in this thread, if peeking the info, why not simply have them write the date and peek it? More direct, for sure. Someone said that it seems more impossible if the it's just a single number. To us, perhaps. But to a layperson, if you never saw the information, it wouldn't matter what it was. You never saw it! And someone catching you out on your peek and thinking, "Hm, he just secretly looked at that paper, but I still don't know how that information would help him" isn't a good thing. Also, it would be very simple, again, to reverse engineer from that point.