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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12945 Posts |
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On Sep 2, 2016, VIEW wrote: Yes! to the grump part. Maybe you're not, but sound like one. |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12945 Posts |
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On Dec 11, 2016, Tim Cavendish wrote: How did you arrive at this conclusion? I bought two great items at mindvention. I used to be a pro. Now an amateur, always a hobbyist. |
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newguy Elite user 411 Posts |
Are you guys confusing The Works (a kit) with The Journal of Psience (a digital magazine)?
I just got another issue of Psience today so they have delivered on the six promised issues and one or two of the promised bonus issues. I think we may have one bonus left for Volume One. |
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Mac_Stone Inner circle Miami, FL 1420 Posts |
We were promised much more than just six issues, there are certainly many more props in the box to fill many more issues. Also, I believe there was only one bonus item promised for early subscribers.
I have been very satisfied with the material as it arrives, but like everyone I am a little more than disappointed with the way distribution in being handled. That being said I'm fairly confident that the gentlemen in charge will fulfill their obligations in their entirety, eventually... Assuming we reach a satisfactory conclusion I would sign up for another future installment. |
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Mac_Stone Inner circle Miami, FL 1420 Posts |
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On Dec 6, 2017, Mac_Stone wrote: It seems I was confused. There was a release yesterday for The Journal of Psience not The Works, for which we are still owed several issues. This thread however should remain on the topic of The Works and not Psience. |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12945 Posts |
I too received my psciense new idea. I don't know how many are included in the $150
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jaizon Inner circle By time you read this I will have 1552 Posts |
Works #8 was delivered on Friday. It is delivered by Psienece. There are still 4 more due. This has not been the quality of effects I expected from Mr. Weber. I do not know about the Journal of Psience material, I expect that they may be completely different.
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Dandin New user 63 Posts |
I think that weber his better at inventing magic effect than inventing mind reading effect. To invent a convincing mind reading effect you need to think like a real mind reader.
Usually the effect will be very simple like a thought that moves from one mind to another. |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12945 Posts |
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On Dec 10, 2017, jaizon wrote: I agree. Not too impressed with what I received so far. I would rather have spent $150 on one good solid item. |
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Dandin New user 63 Posts |
I am sure that you can find strong material that no one else is doing in books that you already have.
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DynaMix Inner circle 1148 Posts |
What makes it worse is the constant hawking of expensive effects IN THE MIDDLE of the delayed Psience effects.
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newguy Elite user 411 Posts |
Offering a $20 item that is exclusive to them, or special admittance to a secret show at Houdini's old home?
If offers like that bother you, you can always just delete the email. |
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Tim Cavendish Inner circle 1404 Posts |
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On Dec 30, 2017, John C wrote: I was massively underwhelmed by Weber/Trono's Real Secrets, so decided to learn from that experience and skip both The Works and Psience. |
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Markymark Inner circle 1686 Posts |
Me too. I wanted to like it as it was a great idea but the same idea over and over put me off.
''In memory of a once fluid man,crammed and distorted by the classical mess'' -Bruce Lee
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newguy Elite user 411 Posts |
"Repetition is the mother of learning, the father of action,and the architect of accomplishment.”
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12945 Posts |
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On Feb 6, 2018, newguy wrote: So why don't babies continue to fall when they get up and try to walk? Even they understand Einstein's theory of insanity. |
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newguy Elite user 411 Posts |
John C,
The comment above, "a great idea but the same idea over and over put me off" is what prompted my response. My experience suggests that we all stop thinking too soon. One way to overcome this standardized "I already know that" complacency is to force ourselves to go back and reexamine the things we believe we already "know." Real Secrets, The Works and Psience have many innovative developments and discoveries with classics like The Trick that Fooled Einstein, The Impenetrable Secret, and more. Every time they changed it up with a new set of objects, a new story, new procedures and new effects. I have spoken to others on both sides of the fence, but any time I met someone who felt like Markymark, I would show them one of the items I learned and they would always respond with "Now THAT'S the kind of thing I like! Why didn't they send us material like that?" We can never cross the same river twice. |
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rickreation Veteran user 343 Posts |
Did Michael Weber shut down Pscience? It seems the website is down.
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newguy Elite user 411 Posts |
No,
They just are selling through the website any more. I just got a new issue of The Works so Psience should be next. |
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Sudo Nimh Inner circle 1873 Posts |
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On Feb 14, 2018, newguy wrote: This. |
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