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John Zander
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What are you doing in your kid shows that

PB & PS?



Temple Screen with silk loads and a ten foot pole for the final load.... kills by the way Smile



Rope

Jumbo Cards

Dye Box (not so small but my only "prop")

20th Century Silks

Card Silks

Aldo’s Knot Knotts

Party of Six by David Acer

What’s Next

Juggling Balls and Silks

Balloons



I could do 40 minutes easy with rope and jumbo cards but my goal is not to drive them away!



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Thing's that are 'easy to carry' is always something on my mind.



A "Square Circle" for a special birthday (a friend) is okay once in a while, but can be a real pain to carry.



Some items that come to mind would be:



1) What's Next (a classic)

2) In the news (another Tenyo, but play's big) kid's really love it.

3) Acrobatic Silks (need I say more?)

4) Any good rope tricks

5) Linking Rings (another classic)

6) Any Jumbo card effect's

7) $100 bill change w/mismade (play's big)

8) A Change Bag (unlimited use's)



The above list has enough magic for an entire neighborhood, and best of all, everything packs flat in your case, and is light!

Just my two cents! Smile
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Hi John!



My favorites!



1)Goshman Sponge Balls

2)Monster Hat

3)Large Nesting Wand

4)Dove Pan With Candy

5)Mouth Coil (my favorite!!!)

6)Professor’s Nightmare

7)Card On Ceiling

8)Rainbow Wand



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My whole kids’ show packs in one small case that acts as my tabletop when I screw it onto the flanged, fold-up table base.

Basic rule of kids’ shows (which are usually done in someone’s home):

The host/hostess does not want you filling up space that s/he has allocated for activities; what s/he wants is for you to fill up time!

If you bring more than one case, you may give a great show; but you’re being a pain in the butt to the host/hostess (who, after all, is the one that is usually paying you!)

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True enough. However, since I also do ventriloquism, I have to bring a second case--the one that holds Rudy Redwood, the star of the show!
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Knife through arm

arm chopper

ritual of the pentagram by Burger

making blood seem to ooze out of the birthday childs head

Gypsy monte

finger fantasies using a meat cleaver



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Yeah, right, Ichazod...

Didn't you forget the bullet catch?
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Scott, naturally the "one case" theory is just that -- a theory.

In your case (no pun, honest!), you obviously need a second case and that's fine. What I meant was the performer who shows up for a forty-minute show with four trunks!

Ichazod, on the other hand, obviously needs a second case -- just to remove the body parts! Smile

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Alright Ichazod, I wanna book you for my Halloween Party next year! Smile Smile Smile
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I just got Dan Harlan's "Pack Small Play Big Kid's Birthday Show" video. It is pretty good and provides some guidance on how to plan and pack a suitcase to do an entire show. His use of a ditch bag is I think, a great way to "clean up" after each routine. Does anyone else use this? His "Shake It Up" routine is really nice. Although I didn't care for some of the others (but I'm not a 10 year old!) It really got me thinking about developing a show that I can do..

Anyone else seen this video and what are your thoughts.



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Thanks Paul, I was wondering about that video. I may have to get that one. Good point BTW about not being a 10 year old. That is something that I need to keep in mind from time to time when choosing new effects for my kid show.
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Bev Bergeron put out a video through, I think, US Toy Company which showed him doing a children's birthday party. Even his table packed small!

No, I don't sell it but you may get it from Bev at

http://www.bevbergeron.com/

No offense, but I think a lot of parents are not happy with the performer producing anything from the mouth, though the kids usually don't mind Smile

Brian Flora has a routine with a mouthcoil on his outdoor show video which gets around this.

I use (and sell) an egg-bag made as a fez. And did anyone mention the colored paper tear to hat?

The coloring book, especially if it is a bit unusual, always seems to get a great reaction.

And multi-color ropes which join together.

Hope this helps.



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All very interesting comments, but after spending all my life in the Entertainment Industry I am a firm believer in "Showmanship" and prefer to make my performing area as 'Magical' as possible so I use a suitcase type Roll on table that contains all my props (OK it's heavy but it's on wheels). I also have my Rabbit and Dove in separate cages decorated to appear 'Magical' without revealing the contents. 90% of my props are of the play big/pack small type but the REAL showstoppers are just too big to carry in a normal suitcase.
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Funny you should mention Dan Harlan's play big, pack small, kids' birthday show tape.
I have it and watched it and really was not all that impressed, at first. I watched it and said, "Gee, this is not all that." But, I had a lot going on, so I put it away for later reviewing.

After watching it again, that little voice inside my head (d**m those aliens and missing time), said 'This is workable, stuff.' His presentation style is not mine, nor did I expect it to be!

I did not like what he does with balloons, not my kind of humor, so I took that out and use a running balloon gag, which turns into a rather nice large balloon gift for the child.

His productions are cool and give you something to work with--how about putting your name on the candy wrappers, I have seen these before, just wish I remember where.

So, after watching the tape again, I gained a few ideas and two tricks, and a different view on how to think about doing kid shows. As I am new to magic, this was a nice help.

At any rate, this tape does have useful information on it, Just absorb what is useful, change what you do not like or use and pack it small.

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Kevin,

I agree with you. And your comments apply to almost every tape I view. My opinion is that Harlens not what I would classify as a top Kid Show entertainer. In a mixed audience it is workable, but, like you, what he did is not my style. Some thing are useable though. If it matched your personality.

Please don't take that I didn't like what he does, I am different and I know my style would not be liked by many others.
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Hey Dennis,

I am happy to see someone understood what I wrote! Yes, Dan does have some useful information, but it is not me, nor is it for most of those I know who, work childrend's parties. This should not discount some of the tricks he does do, which are good. I however would say, if you had a choice between his tape and say, David Ginn or Sammy Smith or a good book, I would go with David, Sammy or the book.

On a side note issue, when you buy a tape, (or book), no one should be trying to copy what they see 100%. You have to change it, add and subtract things and make it your own. Dan's style is not mine, but I hear he does good business-power to the brother! I learned a trick or two, which I will be able to use, so the tape was good for me-how much value can you place on a trick, you will perform a few dozen times? For me, I can say, worth the cost of the tape.

Just me ranting after a long day, on the street.

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Tricks that I like to perform that pack flat and play big are:

Color Changing Silks,
Mouth Coil,
Blow Tube,
Cards Across,
Professor's Nightmare,
Cut & Restored Rope,
Sketch O Magic,
Miser's Dream,
A Balloon routine with the birthday child,

Any of the tricks that have an object appear on the back of the helper (I use one by Ken Scott with a birthday cake).

All of these have comedy and bits of business throughout.
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Ed,

Where did you get your comedy bits?
I am a collector of such bits and I am always looking for more. It is these comedy bits that make the act entertaining.

Kevin

Although what you say is true, however, for the beginner to gain confidence, a large portion of some skits are so powerful, that they should be copied for learning purposes. For example, Sammy Smith's VHS Video Blow tube routine is short and real funny. His moves are excellent and should be used. Now, one can build on it by a silk production, then end it with a silk vanish.

Another example is David's Ginn's Disecto routine. It is very close to the routine done by Eugene Coyle in Hudson's Chopper Cappers.

When it comes to entertaining the kids, a beginner will be "eaten alive" if he trys to be original. Originality comes with experience, experience comes with doing numerous shows and seeing what works and what doesn't for the entertainer. Although this may seem like I advocate copying another, I don't. It's using what works to break into the field and discover oneself. It's a start but it will not make you famous and rich. If one really thinks about it, we all started out this way in our distant past!
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Things that play "big" and pack "small" are often flat and large. Like the three "find the queen" cards, fraidy cat rabbit (which replaces the bulkier hippity hop rabbits), paper tears, what's next, the trick with the three rabbits cards and the carrots, effo the elephant, and what's next.
Other tricks that fit this catagory squish or pack really small like sponge items, appearing and disappearing canes, silks tricks, rope tricks, appearing pole/wand/etc.
Finally, if you do them, balloon animals play really big and pack really small.
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