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Https://e-mentalism.com/collections/newp......cts/iqpa

Looking for thoughts and feedback on this.
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Happy to answer any questions regarding IQPA.

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Happy to answer any questions regarding IQPA.

Be well.



So is this one progressive anagram? Or a system for creating them? Or something totally different?
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It is my approach to progressive anagrams as mind reading technique.

IQPA stands for Invisible Quick Progressive Anagram.

The manuscript contains 4 IQPA's and thoughts on how to use them.

After reading my approach you can easily create your own IQPA's.

Did that helped?
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Prager on the organic choice thread you mentioned something about a PA that was far superior, any relevance to this?

I'm intrigued.
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I'm guessing only english, right?
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Prager on the organic choice thread you mentioned something about a PA that was far superior, any relevance to this?

I'm intrigued.


That's a different one.

My take on Organic Choice has not been released yet and does not rely on progressive anagrams, it's more like the MOABT principle disguised a lot further.

Does that answer your question?
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I'm guessing only english, right?


The IQPA's are designed to work in english.

Once understood the approach, I think you will be able to design your own IQPA's.

I can help you if you wish.

What's your first language?
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Jose,

What is a more powerful effect, that particular unreleased version or this one that you are releasing right now?

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On Oct 19, 2016, tomd wrote:
Prager on the organic choice thread you mentioned something about a PA that was far superior, any relevance to this?

I'm intrigued.


That's a different one.

My take on Organic Choice has not been released yet and does not rely on progressive anagrams, it's more like the MOABT principle disguised a lot further.

Does that answer your question?
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A progressive anagram is a progressive anagram. Dress them up all you want. It's still a pa.
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A progressive anagram is a progressive anagram. Dress them up all you want. It's still a pa.


I agree. I never told that this are not progressive anagrams. This is how I approach them as mind reading technique.
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Just purchased and read through this.

I must say... I like this approach a lot. It's essentially a watered down version of anagrams which is actually not a bad thing. It means that the information is received much faster than traditional anagrams. To give you an idea: the longest anagram in the book is 4 letters.

Jose has done a pretty effective job of getting rid of the things he didn't like about traditional anagrams. I think the thing I like most about this is there really is a large disaccosoation between the letters and the information the spectator has in mind. The letters are usually the focus of anagrams which in the end can sometimes seem like it's a puzzle.This version actually makes the letters feel like they aren't any help.

The methods used are really fairly common and can be seen in many other releases but Jose's combination of these principles is fantastic and quite genius.

I gave this the girlfriend test. Let me just say: my girlfriend HATES anagrams. She has seen me do them and she has always thought it seemed like I was obviously trying to figure it out by the letters.

After doing this she said, "how did you know that?" She then proceeded to question me about it all while being completely clueless that I performed an anagram on her. That just goes to show how successful the disassociation between the letters and the thought are.

Well done Jose! I think this is one of your best releases yet. I love the combination of ideas. Great work. I highly recommend this to anyone who is familiar with anagrams and who would like to have their traditional methods challenged slightly. I think I could use this principles with many anagrams and start to create my own from these.
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I purchased this and have to agree with Madison. I do like this more than the traditional anagrams. The presentation Jose explains in the pdf makes the feel of this come off as more of a true mind reading process than "following a system". Is it sure fire? Not totally but very-very close. You may have to decipher between (2)two choices at the end. But as most experienced mentalists will tell you, being totally right 100% of the time is not as believable as being right 85% of the time. So I think Jose's process really does two things, 1) makes using anagrams more enjoyable and easier and 2) makes the whole mind reading process more believable.

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I purchased this and have to agree with Madison. I do like this more than the traditional anagrams. The presentation Jose explains in the pdf makes the feel of this come off as more of a true mind reading process than "following a system". Is it sure fire? Not totally but very-very close. You may have to decipher between (2)two choices at the end. But as most experienced mentalists will tell you, being totally right 100% of the time is not as believable as being right 85% of the time. So I think Jose's process really does two things, 1) makes using anagrams more enjoyable and easier and 2) makes the whole mind reading process more believable.

RNK



RNK,

I know what you are saying by the "85%" comment, but remember, this is the Café and comments like this will be expanded into a plethora of people who don't own it shouting, "but the ad copy says 100%!! That's false advertising!"

So just to clear that statement up a bit, you will be right 100% of the time. Jose gives you an anagram for months, superheroes, and colors. As long as the spectator is following your directions and not purposefully TRYING to make it difficult for you, it will work 100% of the time.
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Thanks for clarifying, if it wasn't 100% sure fire then the ad would be misleading, not that it bothers me that methods exist which aren't sure fire. I'll have a read of this.
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I am interested as I have created my own using colors. A variation in which the BA is made up of 3 letters, and a variation that only uses 2 questions which can only give you a no answer once. I am a fan of Ana***ms.. if they are done right they can come close to actual mind reading! This seems like it would be great, especially since Maddy is so honest with his reviews.
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I am interested as I have created my own using colors. A variation in which the BA is made up of 3 letters, and a variation that only uses 2 questions which can only give you a no answer once. I am a fan of Ana***ms.. if they are done right they can come close to actual mind reading! This seems like it would be great, especially since Maddy is so honest with his reviews.



Knowing you what little I do Dustin, I think you will love the thinking in this. It really elevates the performance of anagrams to a new level in my opinion. It's all basic ideas, but woven together very nicely.
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I didn't find a single original thought in this e-book. If you have any experience at all with using PA/BA's then you will already be using the Derren Brown/Peter Turner ideas that are rewritten here and the rest is common sense thoughts that I would find hard to believe haven't already occurred to everyone with the bare minimum of knowledge. Presumably Atlas gave his permission for his "Superhero" PA to be used here, but nothing original to the author is added here.

I simply don't understand why people think their every passing thought is worthy of selling to their fellow mentalists. This is the sort of stuff that, if you wanted to share, should be shared as ideas in Inner Thoughts.

If you take away all the blank white space and contents/credit pages the e-book is 14 pages long and costs $10. Not recommended.

(If you are not using PA/BAs then obviously you have to read Atlas Brookings' wonderful 'The Prodigal". You won't regret it
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I didn't find a single original thought in this e-book. If you have any experience at all with using PA/BA's then you will already be using the Derren Brown/Peter Turner ideas that are rewritten here and the rest is common sense thoughts that I would find hard to believe haven't already occurred to everyone with the bare minimum of knowledge.

I simply don't understand why people think their every passing thought is worthy of selling to their fellow mentalists. This is the sort of stuff that, if you wanted to share, should be shared as ideas in Inner Thoughts.

If you take away all the blank white space and contents/credit pages the e-book is 14 pages long and costs $10. Not recommended.

(If you are not using PA/BAs then obviously you have to read Atlas Brookings' wonderful 'The Prodigal". You won't regret it)



The Prodigal is pretty much the say all end all on progressive anagrams. It provides brilliant thoughts and incredibly impressive anagrams. Plus it provides you with the knowledge of how to make your own anagrams (which I find one of the most useful things in the book.)

I do think it's a little unfair to say that everything in this is unoriginal. I agree and have stated that all of the ideas are simple, and yes, all the ideas seem like ideas that people will have pieced together themselves... but I never had. Also he is eliminating about half of what a usual anagram would be which makes it only one "no." This is at least slightly original as most anagrams require at least 2 no's. Mainly what I think is of value is the justification of the arrangement of letters and the shifting of justification from the letters to the actual word. Yes, it is simple. And yes, it SEEMS obvious. But before reading this, I had never done the things mentioned here. And I have used anagrams (Specifically Atlas's Superman anagram) in real world working conditions.
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I honestly don't think stringing together other people's ideas and subtleties from various other effects is worthy of release as a 14 page $10 e-book.
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