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Recoplon
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I just wanted to comment how great reactions I get when performing John Bannon's Collusion. It is a great trick, can be performed with a borrowed deck and the setup is very easy and self working. Somehow manages to get the Gemini Twins concept to a new level. I recommend it especially because as an amateur and beginner like myself, having the feeling of performing a trick like this and the reactions I get is so rewarding.
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Where is it Published?
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On Dec 7, 2016, Sixten wrote:
Http://johnbannonmagic.com/dvds/movezero1.html

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It's actually published in Mentalissimo.
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On Dec 7, 2016, mattH wrote:
Where is it Published?

You can find it in the Move Zero Vol.1 DVD, but in fact the version there (you can see a trailer in youtube) is very very slow and I didn't think it was that great at first.
BUT John Bannon performed and teached it in his Penguin Live lecture, and that version is much better. I really recommend you getting the Lecture instead of the DVD to learn that and many other Bannon tricks.
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Thanks for the info on Collusion - agree that it provides a nice effect for an impromptu routine with quick setup... I like to do Gemini Twins as a quick/simple effect, but like this twist/presentation better.
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I think collusion is a wonderful trick. I performed it plenty of times and it always gets great reactions.

Allen
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Another vote for Collusion! The simple Gemini Twins idea is made "impossible"! Excellent trick for both beginners and seasoned workers. The Move Zero dvd seems 'slow'; but this might be on purpose for the dvd (even for the presentation section). Lynn
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Collusion is indeed a fantastic routine, and a brilliant self-worker. It really does take the Gemini Twins effect to a whole new level.

If you haven't seen it, you can see a performance video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH5D5WQdBT8

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Collusion is great! It is perhaps one of my two favorites from the first two Move Zero DVDs. My other favorite is Dead Reckoning. Also like AK-47.
If using a borrowed or shuffled deck, it does require one very quick sleight, but it wasn't too hard to learn with a little practice.
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Is collusion basically the same as four sided Gemini, or am I getting confused?
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On May 31, 2018, Terrible Wizard wrote:
Is collusion basically the same as four sided Gemini, or am I getting confused?

It uses a similar method, but is a different effect. Here's an excerpt from my review of Move Zero Vol. 1 that summarizes these two effects:

1. Collusion

Two spectators each secretly select a number between from 1-20, deal that many cards and then mark that place in the deck with a Joker. The two cards adjacent to the Jokers are revealed to create a third card (one selected card represents value, the other represents suit). When the spectators reveal the numbers they've secretly chosen and add them together, amazingly at that place in the deck is the very card created by the two other cards!

Comment: This utilizes a principle from the Karl Fulves' classic Gemini Twins, but takes it to another level, by using the two cards selected to create a third card, which happens to show up at a chosen number in the deck. The overall effect is a variation on the popular Any Card at Any Number (ACAAN) effect. Others have correctly noted that the effect is reminiscent of Chris Mayhew's CAANDY, but it is stronger (especially if you actually shuffle the deck at the beginning), and much, much easier to perform. The set-up and method here is surprisingly simple given how stunning the final reveal is! John also gives some tips about setting up on the fly after the spectator has shuffled.

7. Four Sided Gemini

Can a triangle have four sides? In this trick, two spectators each pick a number under 20 and deal down that many cards. The magician deals to a card that is the sum of their numbers and produces an Ace, matching the two cards the spectators have dealt to (also Aces), and a final card in the card box, the final Ace.

Comment: This trick uses the same method as Collusion, but here this is used to produce the four Aces. The underlying principle here is again the method used for the classic Gemini Twins by Karl Fulves, but the presentation and outcome makes it feel quite different. I think I prefer Collusion, but this is a nice variation. The four-sided triangle is a presentation idea that originates with a Max Maven effect.

See here for my full review of the entire DVD, which I can highly recommend to those who are considering picking it up:

Ender's Review: Move Zero Vol 1 (John Bannon) - Self-Working Tricks Made Truly Magical with the Genius of John Bannon

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......c=664716

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Cheers Enders Smile. Weirdly, I think I prefer 4 sided - esp done from FSDIU.
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This article from TheJerx includes an interesting way to develop a presentation for procedure heavy tricks like Collusion.

http://www.thejerx.com/blog/2016/7/21/pr......sentable
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Great article, thanks for sharing that link!
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You're welcome EndersGame. I've found Andy's ideas on presentation to be hugely influential in my own magic. I'm a high school teacher whose interest in magic had lapsed over the last few years. Andy's focus on amateur magic reignited my interest in magic and in performing magic. I think I read his entire blog in about four days when I first found it a couple of years ago. My favorite thing about the article I mentioned above is that it gives any process heavy trick perfect justification and makes the trick even more interesting. I posted my presentation on Paul Harris' Overkill a little while ago which relied on this kind of presentation method.
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