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On Feb 22, 2017, Acecardician wrote:
Hi Will thanks for your response. I did not realize you were just the creator. From what I read it made it seem like it was your whole project. I remember getting the Broadcast message from Steve here and he was talking about you. I can't quote it but I only remember your name. Now I realize you have nothing to do with shipping. Sorry...

ACE



BTW:To Will:
The message I sent you was here on the Café. This is my only magic media. You don't have to respond at this point as it is all over. If you feel you need to please contact me in private.

Thanks for your time! I appreciate you!

ACE
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Will ( and Rich) you have several messages from me at Facebook Messenger.
Please answer me
I also sent you a video of the watch

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Hey guys,

I got this update from Rich Tsai on the Facebook Vapr Watch users group. Passing it on for those not members of Facebook group. This is in reference to the outcome of campaign


From Rich's post on Facebook

Hello guys

All feeling better and caught up to most of my work I got behind while at black pool.

Update coming soon. In process of scheduling the watches to get made.

In case you missed Will's update about "did we make it?" The answer is "no we did not. "

Our new site is almost up. Doing data transferring from old site to new site. The transfer is taking longer than expected.
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On Feb 20, 2017, Will Tsai wrote:
Hello all friends here, It's Will. Just landed London and finally have some down time. Thought I'd drop in and answer a few questions.

I still haven't had the time to go through all new posts yet since I last logged in. First of all, like a member posted above from my Facebook post, we did not make it by the 15th due to the unexpected custom issues we had. It has greatly affected our campaign and plan. The majority of the pledge we had all came in within the week of deadline cut off; that's after the the first 300 backers started to receive their watch and we had such positive reviews from people who actually own the watch, words got out. If this were to happen as planned without the custom delay, we'd probably make it to our target the 2nd week. But hey.. it's life.

And because of that, Blackpool became our last hope to promote and let people know about the watch; and hopefully pledge on the spot and push the campaign through. Consider the bigger picture, if our campaign works out, EVERY BACKER will receive their watch A LOT sooner. I donated my very limited personal backup stock and made them available at full retail price as a demo showreel to show people.

A member made a point about people coming to our booth with issue. That's a very interest point. There were people coming to us with issues they experienced, however, not a single person who shook my hand didn't walk away happy. For those who have not been to Blackpool, Blackpool is a magical place where people hangout with happiness and basically don't sleep at night. For that reason, most had no time to watch the instruction at all. When they came to us with issues, we 'fixed' them on the spot by basically pointing out what's already covered in the instruction. We helped people charge the unit, change the time, set up the tube, pair the remote, put in the refill properly and set clear smoke pathway... etc. It was a great experience to have direct interaction with our supporters and know they walked away happy.

Now the watch is out there. Many have seen it. Many played with it. Many were more than impressed. Some amazing supporters, people of influence, and dealers in the community offered to help fund this project through. Nothing is set in stone yet at this very moment. I sincerely hope that this will fall through so we would have a chance to make something amazing happen for the community again. But that's not up to us at this point. Will keep all posted.

Thanks all again for the love and support.

-will


Hi Will: I note your statement of: " I donated my very limited personal backup stock and made them available at full retail price as a demo showreel to show people. " in the above post. I for one, as a paid backer of yours before Blackpool, would have appreciated being able to buy at full price to have the unit now. To sell off units at Blackpool at any price without offering that first to those who paid in full in advance, seems unfair to me. Trust is important and your team has many of us waiting and waiting. Maybe you should consider borrowing the funds needed and getting this product out before the blemish gets larger? You folks sell a lot and there has to be some working capitol and credit available? Just a friendly suggestion.
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Any idea when the new SansMind site will be available. Long time no see.
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It was up and running earlier today. It must have gone down again
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Frustrated here. I?f you cannot as a dealer deliver as expected and you have taken money you HAVE to communicate better than these people at SM are. They go to Blackpool and sell watches they sold already to us earlier. Lots of rationale about how and why but wrong in my opinion. Their site goes down. They claim data transfer taking longer than expected. It's called data because it exists. Transferring is nano seconds. Design takes time. You don't take a site down without the backup ready to go up. I have a data farm firm OI consult for and I get this tech stuff. The answers don't add up to me. I want a clear line of communication and a constant presence of actual info on their site and here at the Café where the workers who paid them are.You owe no explanation of you deliver as promised OR IMPLIED on a pre-promotion. BUT if you don't deliver you can't just go missing for a week at a time without talking to us. And what you say should be full of content and clarity. That's just how I feel.
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Web site still not up
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Has anyone had email contact with Sansminds folks? For 3 weeks and numerous emails no response.
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According to Rich Tsai from the Facebook users group

If you pledged in January your Vapr Watch estimate is summer 2017

If you pledged in February your Vapr Watch estimate is fall 2017
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Or maybe 2018 ??
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Omg...so happy I didn't preorder!!!
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So thrilled I got my refund. Phew.
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Does anyone know how I can contact SansMinds (either Rich or Will) in order to request a refund for my Collector's Package
pre-order, since their website is still shut down and I don't know any other way to get in touch with them?

Thank you in advance.

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Andrew K.
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Contact Will Tsai directly on facebook. Everybody who didn't get their watch yet should ask for a refund!!!
StarManager
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Will, Why are you not talking to this thread and us any more? This looks horrible for you and the company. Please man up and tell us the status.
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Interesting...I just saw Sansmind shared someone else‘s magic video on FB two hours ago...
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I think you would have a better chance talking to Sansmind using a medium or fortune teller! I almost pre ordered and am SO glad I didn't. No prop or worth going through this c*#p! Makes me wonder if they at connected with Rick at Outlaw.
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I wonder if they have gone out of business, and re-started as SMagic productions....

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I received a prompt response from them at the facebook page. I am awaiting their resolution of the issue in my case but I have to give them the credit of replying within hours on a weekend. The site being down for weeks is disturbing. I will keep you all posted on this thread.
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