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Vapr Watch – Sansminds

Product description : Alright, this seems to be THE “trick” of 2017, everybody is talking about it ! I didn’t pledge the kickstarter but I went to Blackpool and they had it on the stand, after viewing a few times how it worked, I bought it. This is basically a watch which can produce smoke AND tell the time which is a big difference compared to other product out there (not for me but for most people). I had good and bad times with Sansminds before, let’s find out if this one will be a good one.. or not !

Price and where to buy it : This was sold at $250 on the kickstarter but it was priced at $400 in Blackpool. I don’t think you can get it now, the website is “upgrading” at the moment.

What you get : You get a box which can close thanks to magnets, it’s the same box that was provided with Vapr ! Again, it feels very good and classy, as usual with all Sansminds Pro Elite. Inside, you will find a paper with a link to watch the instructions online, they are very well made, and you learn everything so you can use correctly your Vapr Watch. Then there is the remote, which is rattling (people who opened it said it’s the battery) but working fine, it’s the same one as provided with Vapr. Then, there is the charger and the little armband in order to put your remote inside. And of course, last but not least, the watch, I chose the Silver one which was a Blackpool exclusive, and it looks gorgeous ! I don’t think it’s too big, it looks perfectly fine on my wrist. Overall, for the price, I don’t feel cheated, it works fine and looks beautiful.

Teaser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORt4ZnfpNXc

The pros and the cons : Here is the core of my review, let's begin with the cons, as I will usually be doing, I prefer to keep the good things for the end.

THE CONS :
– I had to change my watch twice during Blackpool ! First, the watch didn’t want to turn on, even after a full charge. Then, it was the timepiece which didn’t work ! But the one I have now works perfectly fine.
– It may look a little bit big on some people.

THE PROS :
– The watch looks beautiful, big watch is a trend right now and for the price asked, it is not even that expensive in my opinion.
– The watch does tell the time so you can use it as your regular watch ! It’s a big plus, I didn’t find it awkward to have a watch which didn’t tell the time but some people did so it’s nice to have this feature.
– It has been built professionally, you can feel it, this is something which has been thought of a long time.
– The watch you produce is actually very thick and it comes right into your fist thanks to the pump ! So people won’t think the smoke is coming out of the watch.
– Thanks to the remote, you can do a full 1 minute smoke production, there is no problem about that, you can do up to 1 minute even if you don’t have to.
– You don’t have to wait between 2 puffs of smoke, you can do one after another !
– You get a 3 months warranty on it which is a nice attention.
– The battery lasts 24 hours so you have enough power to do multiple puffs before charging it again.
– The refills allows you to do around 100 puffs.
– The wristband is custom made so the tube can fit inside.
– The watch is pretty silent, not completely but you wouldn’t hear it in a regular situation.

Overall rating : I do believe this is a breakthrough in magic, the technology is amazing and the smoke is beautiful, I won’t use it but I can see many people wearing it, 3.5/4 hearts.

As for the difficulty level, you just have to push on a button so nothing hard, I would say 2/5 stars.

Similar products : The Lynx Smoke watch is good watch too, it depends on the style you want to use.

A little note, many many watches were not working properly, so if you have a fully functional watch, this is the best piece of equipment of 2017 ! But be careful, you may receive a not working watch which was the case for many people, consider my review to be for a "functional" watch. Hope Sansminds will solve the problem quickly.

If you liked my review, make sure to check all my other ones on my website, link in my signature Smile
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I don't get it? Some work and some don't? And you still gave it a good review? Lets see. Let me roll the dice and hope I get something that works? No way. Smile
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On Jun 3, 2017, MR Effecto wrote:
I don't get it? Some work and some don't? And you still gave it a good review? Lets see. Let me roll the dice and hope I get something that works? No way. Smile


I can't do a review on something I don't have. My watch did work, so I reviewed it. I'm just adding the fact many watches were not working which can be a problem.

If I didn't mention it, people would have said "Many watches didn't work properly !" Smile
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Actually very few watches of the first 300 had problems. Most problems were solved by watching the instructional video or getting customer support. So the review is right on target. Smile
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STILL CURIOUS ON updates. Why no official reply to status in the past month or so?
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^ I suspect it's because this project went out with a whimper instead of a bang. A shame really as it looked very innovative.

I'm sure they will be true to their word and fulfill their promise to the backers. And you will have a one of a kind piece of kit, no question.

But as a failed project and loss to the company, it's probably not top priority anymore. They have to focus on other projects now to offset it which might explain their radio silence.

That and resources going to AGT may have something to do with it.

I wish though they would figure out a way to resurrect this and bring it to market more efficiently. Seems so strange that they invested so heavily in it just to have it go out like that...
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All the above from PendletonThe3rd are likely true BUT even this month as Will Thai grabs the cover of VANISH MAGAZINE there is A TWO PAGE SPREAD pitching the watch including the words :AVAILABLE AT . . .

SIMPLY PUT there are resources going into GETTING MONEY for this project and yet those of us who paid and supported receive little information about our goods while the promo machine keeps selling. And they are not exactly forthright in the way they sell it. The image projected is "just around the corner" or "available" and not a clear explanation that you are going to wait a year if you order now or more.

Ethically speaking chasing your loss by selling more in advance is akin to a pyramid scheme or kiting. It's not honorable. They are a business and pitch sales every day for tons of their products. They should get a loan, pay the interest, and fulfill on the promise. In business you do not get to keep the winnings and diss the losers. AFTER AGT Will has total washability. He should use this right now, borrow, manufacture, and make good ASAP.

My humble opinion.
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Hey guys I think we can all calm down. The last update said if you purchased in January you will get watches in Summer 2017. Summer 2017 means between June 20th- September 2nd. If you purchased in February the update said you would get your watch in the Fall of 2017. Fall 2017 is September 22 - December 21st.

Sansminds is currently making each watch by hand one at a time. We are not in summer yet so I don't think we need to worry at this time. We might get them in June, July, August or September starting after June 20.

Enjoy your last few weeks of spring time.
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Reasonable FunnyClown. I'm not upset I just want communication that is clear and which haas product following as agreed.
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They best way to get more detailed info faster is go on the Facebook group and ask Rich Tsai or call the phone number on the Sansminds website and speak to Rich by telephone. But as for now. I'm not worried. We still have a few more weeks before summer begins.
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Chill people , when you received your watch you'll feel the wait is totally worth . It's one of the best or in fact the best purchase I've made in magic , this thing just works like a charm .
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Thanks for the support Legendary Wizard! Waiting with optimism thanks to yo and funnyclown!
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I have seen a lot of them for sale on ebay and on here. But that don't mean much. A lot of people go with the hipe then try and sell it later. One guy on ebay is trying to get 900.00 for his. LOL. What I worry about if it takes this long to get yours what happens if it stops working? Its a lot of money for something we really don't know yet how long they will last.
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I have seen a lot of them for sale on ebay and on here. But that don't mean much. A lot of people go with the hipe then try and sell it later. One guy on ebay is trying to get 900.00 for his. LOL. What I worry about if it takes this long to get yours what happens if it stops working? Its a lot of money for something we really don't know yet how long they will last.


$900?! This is crazy~
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On Jun 6, 2017, MR Effecto wrote:
I have seen a lot of them for sale on ebay and on here. But that don't mean much. A lot of people go with the hipe then try and sell it later. One guy on ebay is trying to get 900.00 for his. LOL. What I worry about if it takes this long to get yours what happens if it stops working? Its a lot of money for something we really don't know yet how long they will last.


$900?! This is crazy~


Maybe not so crazy. I paid about $500 with extra smoke and I have nothing at all. So maybe $900 for something is better than $500 for . . . . .
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The watch is worth the wait, I love mine so much Smile
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Here is an update post from Facebook Vapr Watch users group from Rich Tsai about Vapr Watch.

Hi guys,

I will pin this post just so it is easy access for everyone.

First of all, thank you everyone for waiting patiently. As everyone know we finalized the revised version later than expect. But we have updated parts of the watch to make sure everything is ironed out.

We have started production already however the hand assembly takes a while to complete. No solid date yet. We are still finding ways to speed up the process. So far we have found a few way to be more efficient but we want to make sure it does not compromise the end result. We will keep everyone posted.

Lastly, if you are on the waiting list. We only have a few spot open. We will be contacting you soon.
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This is the kind of communication we need. Excellent!
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Bought this from hefemexy here on the Café...while that was a bad experience in and of itself, the watch is really cool (read further down if curious about that).

I passed on the original VAPR Watch campaign as it all seemed a little convoluted (the campaign details, ETA on watch etc), and I wasn't loving the idea of strictly a remote to activate the smoke. I would have liked to have an option to activate off the watch as well.

That said, when I saw it listed here, and realized I could have it now, I went for it.

The watch is pretty awesome. The smoke is terrific. And it is truly an ingenious and innovative device. The build quality is terrific too.

And yeah, it looks like a nice sporty watch. I won't go so far as to say it looks/feels like a luxury watch because I'm somewhat of a watch enthusiast, and this isn't that. But it's not supposed to be. It's a smoke device disguised nicely in a sporty looking watch.

It does have its quirks... and after joining the FB group, it seems I'm not the only one who has noticed them. Here is what I have experienced so far:

- While I still have not tested this completely, I don't believe my watch holds a 38 hour charge or 100+ puffs. I read that it depends on usage but at least for me, it doesn't seem to last a full day even with moderate use. Sometimes just a few hours. Again, I haven't fully tested it, so it could be that it wasn't fully charged. It does seem to last a good amount of time though so all good.

- After a recharge, sometimes I have to pair the remote back to the watch. It's kind of annoying but not hard to do so not that big a deal. Just strange that this happens. I heard that there were issues with the original batches remotes/bluetooth so this could be a quirk of that nature. I may reach out to SM and see what they can do if anything. Either way, it still works. On a side note, this may have happened after a charge too...that the watch and remote desynch. Only reason I am not certain is because it could have been that the charge went out. Not sure which.

- The remote rattles...I read that this is the battery. Not a big deal. But a quirk nevertheless.

All in all, very cool. When it works, it works well. A couple of quirks hold it back a bit but otherwise, it does exactly what it sets out to do.


MY EXPERIENCE BUYING FROM HEFEMEXY (IF CURIOUS):
Bought this pre-owned from hefemexy...and it came to me with the stopper not attached to the watch as supposed to be. A minor thing as the stopper still does what it supposed to do on the canister...and the watch works...but still.

When I brought this up to Hefemexy, I didn't even get so much as an apology for receiving the watch this way. He basically told me that the watch still works so that's that. Which is true but c'mon. That's not the point here. It's about being honest. Describing your product accurately...and pricing it accordingly.

From there, all reasonable attempts to make this right were refuted and ignored.

It really gets me as I always take the time to describe everything I sell fairly and accurately so there are no surprises...so I can never understand why some sellers just don't do the same.

Hefemexy is simply dishonest and cannot be trusted. So please beware when buying anything from this guy.
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This is the kind of communication we need. Excellent!


This is the kind of communication we need (from Sansminds).

Will and Rich were here answering questions, and this is an official thread that they started. However, after a while, they stopped answering questions here. I think funnyclown answered more questions than anyone from SM. If they can provide update on FB, why can‘t they just copy and paste here? It only takes a few seconds. Very strange.
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