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Has anyone actually done a full list of every tenyo price? I know there was a website that showed aprox prices but it has vanished
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Rather than a full list, it would be easier to list the few things that still sell for over $60.
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Or, is the next generation so sophisticated that 'our' magic is just ho hum for them and they will be collecting old computers.



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Since we recognize some 'old fashioned gaming stuff' (=board games like Kingsburg, Dominion and Munchkin) in the picture as well there's still hope. Smile
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The word on the street is Colonel Mustard did it. Smile
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The thing about collecting video games and computers, both of which I do, is that there are several stages...

Stage 1: The technology is new and relevant in the market place. It generally demands full price and it may or not be popular. If it is popular, then many units are sold.

Stage 2: This happens after about 6 months to a year after the technology was first introduced and lasts for about 10 years. The technology becomes garbage, you cannot give it away since there is a new widget that does the exact same thing but has a shinier chrome button and racing stripes. Many of the units of technology from stage 1 end up in the trash and in second hand stores. Having a friend see you even owning one of these will get you shamed and called a Luddite.

Stage 3: 10 years have passed and now people are nostalgic for the tech. If it was popular, the price will generally be low and you will be able to find the occasional unit still in 2nd hand shops. If the item was not popular it will demand a premium price, maybe up to 1000% or more of what it retailed for when new. People will fight on auction sites over it, and owning one will be a mark of prestige among the community.

Stage 4: Everyone who was nostalgic about it will have one, a few will remain in collections and a few will be sold off after significant others realize just how much their loved one spent on the obsolete/old technology. The rose colored glasses of nostalgia will fade away eventually and people get bored with their acquisition. They will begin looking for the next great thing to collect.

Stage 5: Since everyone is done reliving an experience, they try to sell it only to find out that everyone else did the same thing. Prices drop. Only those who had a true love of the device will keep theirs, others will end up in the trash during a spring cleaning session when people think "why did I buy this?"

I imagine it is like that for most collections <.<;;

Also, I work in technology, I am an Electrical Engineer. Oddly enough instead of playing video games, many of my friends who also work in the same field gather together and play non computer/tech games. We often find the strangest games one could imagine such as "Cards against Humanity" or "Cosmic Encounter" or even D&D. I do have to admit, we played clue about 2 months ago, it was a fun trip down memory lane. Smile
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This has got to be one of the best descriptions of the stages some/most collectible items go through - thanks for sharing that ThunderSqueak Smile

If it were applicable for Tenyo (which I believe it is actually) I think we (or at least I) are (am) in the third phase. I'm happy with my Tenyo collection as it is and have acquired every trick I wanted to have. However everytime I look at my collection I wonder how many and which effects I actually USE/PERFORM, suddenly realizing: not many!

My interest now has moved to other collectible/'intelligent' magic apparatus, so chances are I might sell at least a part of my collection in the future to gather the necessary funds Smile
Too bad I 'waited' for stage 4 ... but who knows in the long run new/young people will discover Tenyo and will eventually start collecting ... and before you know it we'll be in phase 3 once again Smile
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I made a mistake, I/we am/are actually in stage 4 imo, stage 3 is behind us Smile
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Very interesting. I also think that a lot of "Tenyo Collectors" are only into certain props. I know I am. I'm not interested in a complete collection. I'm really only interested in some. I pretty much have everything I wanted from the past and not even close to a complete collection.

I get way more kick out of certain items, some old, some newer, like The Haunting, Perpetual Puzzle, Bare Bones, Ghost House, Dog House, not just owning a ton of Tenyo. Some of these I got at a great price, and others I overpaid (Like The Haunting). I doubt I will pay much for any more Tenyo, and just purchase a few of the new ones as they come along and sell for cheap.

Also, I can't imagine owning a really cool Tenyo product and NOT opening the box. To this day, I still perform with some of my Tenyo props. I paid $120 for Prison Box and I actually perform walk-around with it. It is one of my funniest routines. I don't know what I would do if I break it because of performing with it. I guess I would just cry, 'cause I ain't gonna be shellin' out more cabbage fer it!"

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I think it is safe to assume that there will always be new buyers/collectors of Tenyo arriving on an ongoing basis.

Lately, Tenyo prices vary greatly depending on when the item is for sale, who is looking, and how lucky the seller is not to mention whether it is new or used and condition etc..

Prices have never really been stable for discontinued and highly sought after Tenyo but I do agree that the rarer Tenyos in great demand sell for less these days.

It is like a roller coaster ride and when you jump on as both a seller and a buyer determines selling prices. The readily available Tenyo items have a predictable range.

I suspect that there is one Tenyo which has been discontinued and is now becoming more and more difficult to find that will skyrocket in value eventually. It has been available for many years so there are plenty of them out there but finding one unopened will be difficult to do. I am speaking of Crystal Cleaver. One of Tenyos all-time most popular tricks!
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Tenyo Eye of the Idol is currently on sale for £195 on UK ebay ... but no takers yet.

Perhaps a case of inflated prices, rather than falling prices?
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On Apr 10, 2019, Magical Moments wrote:
I think it is safe to assume that there will always be new buyers/collectors of Tenyo arriving on an ongoing basis.

Lately, Tenyo prices vary greatly depending on when the item is for sale, who is looking, and how lucky the seller is not to mention whether it is new or used and condition etc..

Prices have never really been stable for discontinued and highly sought after Tenyo but I do agree that the rarer Tenyos in great demand sell for less these days.

It is like a roller coaster ride and when you jump on as both a seller and a buyer determines selling prices. The readily available Tenyo items have a predictable range.

I suspect that there is one Tenyo which has been discontinued and is now becoming more and more difficult to find that will skyrocket in value eventually. It has been available for many years so there are plenty of them out there but finding one unopened will be difficult to do. I am speaking of Crystal Cleaver. One of Tenyos all-time most popular tricks!


I agree and just today ordered 2 more Crystal Cleavers before they go up and are hard to get. Eventually one will break so stock up. Smile

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