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I am hoping that someone could tell me where to go to learn some manipulation for rose petals. What I looking to accomplish is to basically pull rose petals from mid air. I have tried finger palming but those things are just too delicate. Is their a better method that I should explore or should I tough out the finger palming method.

I also wanted to ask where is the best place to go to learn how to produce a live rose. I have heard of Monty's Video but I hear that it is not good. The ideal method would be good for stage as well as close up.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks!
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Caspar:

You have a nice idea and as far as I can tell. I have never come across anyone doing rose petal manipulation like your describing.

My feelings is that you will have to design your own rose and your own gimmicked rose petals. If you make an oversized rose, or find one large enough, you can make the rose petals large size as well so they take on the same demensions as a small playing card.

If this is the case, then you could manipulate the rose petals in the same fashion as card manipulation. The petals would need to be made out of a material that has the same thickness as a playing card would so that are not so delicate to manipulate.

I have Montes video and it is ok. It has some useful info on it but is not the best. It might be worth checking out.

I would reccomend producing fake roses as they last much longer and are much easier to rig up for production.

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Ditto on making fake rose pedals. Use craft paper with clear packing tape over them to give them the slide.

Don't know if that would convey to an audience as rose pedals. But it is worth a try. Start by plucking from a rose and them continue may work.

Read some misers dream routines and card manipulatin books as Kyle has mentioned.
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Thanks, I have Bobo's Coin Magic. I'll take a look at the Misers Dream in there and see what hits me as far as ideas for manipulation.

Thanks for your ideas regarding gimmicked petals though. Those would be okay with enough distance from the audience I suppose, but for closeup work I would need live petals or maybe some silk petals from a crafts store. Where I would like to end up is to give a rose or two away to somebody in an audience.

I have heard of topits but don't know much about them other than they are good for vanishing. Are they good for producing as well? Would that be a step in the right direction?

Oh well they say "Where there is a will there is a why!"

Thanks
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The idea is that you must imply that these are rose pedals by use of pantomime in your act. If you produce a rose and pluck one of your fake pedals from it, this will be enough to convey to the audience that what your manipulating is indeed rose pedals.

What would also be a great ending is to take the pedal that you produce in your hands, crumple it and produce a red snow storm on stage. The red snow storm will look like a thousand rose pedals and would look really great.

Are you thinking of a close-up act or a stage act? Both require vastly different approaches. I was in the thinking you were referring to a stage act. Close up manipulation of rose pedals might be a lot more difficult to pull off in this way.

Just never let "how am I going to do this" get in the way of your creative thoughts and ideas.

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Have you seen Yumi's act? She produces pink cards that are very similar to rose petals, and it is incredibly beautiful. Look it up for inspiration, but don't imitate.
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I am actually thinking of both approaches (Stage/Parlour? & Close-up). I love the idea for a red snowstorm, although I am vaguely familiar with the effect I could see pulling a rose from the swirl of red snow.

For close up I am thinking of being able to be able to produce a few petals, make a steal, and blow a dozen or so into the air and then produce a real rose, which I think would go ever well in restaurant setting or even a club. Hopefully Monty's Video can help in finding a method to pull the Rose Production off.

When I was in Korea there was an old lady that would go around to the differnet clubs selling single roses to the patrons. Some Clubs in the States also do that as well as a polaroid snapshot. And I thought that a Magical production of a Rose would work well in venues such as this.

Again thanks for you help.
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I have done rose manipulation and rose steals many times before. PM me or send me an e-mail at magic4u02@aol.com if you would like more details and suggestions on this.

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A touch on what Kyle said earlier. I do an act where I have a young lady sitting on a park bench. Her beauty enchantments me. I have a white rose with me and hand it to her. After a short dance, she sits down begins to pull the petals (from a silk rose, also the petals being pulled where made of paper). When all of a sudden she hands me one of the petals and after pulling out my fan I produce many many rose petals (snowstorm) from a single petal.

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Richard Robinson had something awhile back on making rose blooms out of the juice cartons and a gimick to produce them.
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