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In light of the recent attacks on some of our fellow buskers,....food for thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkUZw0ckM9o

While many attacks can't be prevented, I think Awareness is important.

I also highly recommend Gracie Jui-jitsu, for those looking for a self-defense method.

Curious if any other readers on this site have witnessed or experienced any physical attacks while performing???????
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I have had a guy come up to my rope and said he was going to kick my *** once. I took a few steps back away from the rope I had on the ground and for some reason, he would step over the rope. I was happy about that : )

I also had some teenagers try stealing money from a hat I had sitting on the ground in front of my table back in 2006. When I caught them, they denied having tried anything. I gave each of them a couple bucks and they left.

Why did I give them a couple bucks, I thought they probably needed it and maybe it would keep them from trying to rob someone else and getting into trouble or someone getting hurt.

For the last 8 years or so, I carry a concealed gun in a SmartCarry holster. Even if I took my shirt off, no one would be able to see the gun or the holster. As long as your in the U.S. I highly suggest all buskers get a cow and a smart carry holster. If you look it up, you will see why no one can see it.

The gun I carry is a Glock 26. While it's smaller than a Glock 19 it's still a double stack, so it is a bit heavy and thick.
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I plan on trying to transition from the stuff around campus I've been doing to more traditional street busking this year, and getting my ass kicked is actually one of the real concerns I have.
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Interesting holsters. I've thought a lot about this as I will be traveling and street performing with my wife in about a year. I thought about rigging a water spraying flower with gasoline and then carrying my double shooting fire wand. Nothing is a deterrent like being set on fire. Also I could yell incindio as I did it
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Carrying a concealed weapon can be a major crime in some areas. If I carried, I would want a license which is ***ed near impossible in some places.
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True but that just depends on where you are located. Knowing the laws around conceal and carry in your area is part of being a responsible gun owner. I know as a trucker I can't legally transport a firearm across some state lines. However, in my home state of missouri I can conceal and carry with no permit needed
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I just hope you don't live in New Jersey
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Come to Mississippi...you can open carry withOUT a permit here.

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I posted this because a colleage busker of mine was attacked this summer, and ended up losing the season with a broken arm, ribs, dislocated shoulder.

Three youths attacked him after the show....they were harassing someone else, he told them to lay off...and ended up being the one assaulted.

As for myself, I've come close, but have been always (fortunately) being able to avoid any fists of fury when working pitches. I think part of that may be luck, part of it being aware of my surroundings and knowing when it's time to leave. Sometimes you end up in a situation where there is no way out....and in these cases IMHO being able to handle yourself can sometimes be enough to thwart the situation. If anyone is looking on choosing a martial Art for self-defense I recommend Gracie Jui-Jitsu.

I cringe at the idea of carrying a gun or pipe. Just more weight and an extra prop I can do without LOL
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Bobby Maverick talked about an incident that happened to him (in his At The Table talk)in New Orleans. He got lucky that a majority of his crowd at the time was off-duty police and they quickly settled and removed the unruly audience members.
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Jujitsu is a great martial art but has one huge weakness. I practiced for a couple years and never saw a way to deal with multiple attackers. One on one it's great but add one more person and your getting kicked while on the ground ting to perform a submission
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Anytime I've done any busking, it's always been in places with a lot of foot traffic. I never had a problem.
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"If you find yourself getting attacked, after a Show;
it's just your audience's way,
of telling you to go home and practise some more."

(the Police in Düsseldorf told me that once,
after a group, threw water-balloons into a Show of ours. 🙃)

I tend to agree with Jakeg, on this one.
Our crowds protect us.

Sometimes, when we play some pretty hairy corner,
I find the 'low lifes' see us, as 'partners',....often(!).
Especially, if we greet them, with a smile.
I guess, if you're turning 'really big bucks',
the 'threat',
comes with bundle.

That being said,
I must admitt,
I've had a couple of good fights on the Streets.
Usually,...(always!),
a heckler or hassler broke my cool.
Looking back,
I shame myself for the situations,..
but this still doesn't tarnish the stain.

Going out there,
before each Show,
I promise myself to keep cool.
"Smile", I tell myself.
Smiling is a great gun.
,..carrys big bullets.
But, it's a heavy one to hold.

Getting robbed?
Once,..ONCE,..
We were conned by a gypsy group.
No violence at all,...
smooth as a sweet baby's po.
(I wrote it up some years ago.
I think I called the post, "Robbed,...a sweet sting" Jul 21, 2008)

I like to see our presence,
'Us', as Performers;
actually making the Streets a safer place.
Folks come out,
all colours, ages,...
stand next to each other,..
laugh,
applaud(!),..
have fun,...
with each other,..
total strangers,.
in public.
I like imagining 'Us', as this.

I'm actually sure,
that's what we are,..
all of us.
Gallagher
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I went back in time and pulled Gallagher's story into 2017. (See post above on the list) How's that for time travel.
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If you cant carry a gun or don't want to, look into pepper spray or a sap. Nobody wants to get hit with a sap. Guaranteed knockout.
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In terms of self defense, I think the first, most important thing is the stuff they talked about in that video, and related issues: how to conduct yourself in such a way as to avoid confrontations. However, when it comes to actually dealing with the confrontations when they unavoidably arise, there are some good solutions.
First I quote what all or most authorities on self defense say, and that is that the best self defense (in life or death situations) is a gun or other weapon provided you train with it regularly.
If you can't use a weapon, or even if you can, it is a good idea to look into martial arts. This is because not all confrontations call for a response of deadly force, even when force is called for.

For a specific martial art, I second Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Just remember that in order for it to be effective, you need to keep with it. In martial arts, there are no quick and dirty tips. If someone came up to you with three weeks experience in magic and asked you for tips booking a gig, you'd tell him to practice more; he's not ready. The same commitment is necessary for martial arts. Jiu-Jitsu, I would say, does feel this particularly heavily, because once you close the distance with someone and go to the ground, if you don't actually know what you're doing, there's no way to get out of there (without knowing what you're doing.)

(One slight exception to this is Krav Maga when taught well, because it is specifically designed to teach people who know nothing how to hurt people in the shortest amount of time possible. It isn't the most comprehensive option out there, but it does work. It just might work better for 18 year old soldiers than any given civilian.)

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On Jan 23, 2017, Kyoki_Sanitys_Eclipse wrote:
Jujitsu is a great martial art but has one huge weakness. I practiced for a couple years and never saw a way to deal with multiple attackers. One on one it's great but add one more person and your getting kicked while on the ground ting to perform a submission

In response to this, I quote something that Rener Gracie (from the video) mentioned which is that NO martial art really works against multiple opponents. The only thing that makes BJJ worse is that when you are on the ground it is hard to maintain distance from the other attackers -- which is why a good BJJ guy would not go to the ground against multiple attackers. Still, for this reason and others, it pays to learn at least a bit of striking to supplement your grappling, I think.
Remember Quacky.
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I think what puts most people at the greatest risk is the fact that they're basically good people.

Most, even while in danger, would hesitate to gouge the eyes, or strike the throat of an assailant.

I've always found that the best defence is awareness.
A gift for gab also goes a long way.
If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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