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carlosbosco New user 73 Posts 
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Has anyone built Ark of Tibet? I am in the process of doing so right now and am wondering what colors to use . If anyone has could you please post photos. I would appreciate it greatly. Thanks for your help
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cardfreakhk Special user Hong Kong SAR 586 Posts
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I can see the illusion work video tapes 1-4 are selling at http://www.osborneillusionsystems.com
Do they have DVDs come out after all these years?
Work smarter, not harder.
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Laszlo Csizmadi Special user From Hell 868 Posts
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On 2008-11-27 13:12, cardfreakhk wrote: You can buy them on ebay sometimes but if you need quickly then buy here: http://www.misdirections.com/illusion.html Pull down a bit on the side. Best, Las |
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makeupguy Inner circle 1411 Posts
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There are few if any plans out there that are 100% correct.. and spot on on 100% of the measurements even if they are correct in everything else.
Illusion building is 80% technical.. and 20% art... and another 5% just tinkering in most cases. The majority of Paul's Plans are wonderful. He's owned nearly all of the props at one time or another and many of his plans are measured right off the prop in his warehouse. What I wish is that someone would come out with a "Tips and Tricks" book.. that lists some of the unusual hardware (especially a source for the lazy susan for the twister head box).. and a source for things like rollers, worm drives for levitations, sliders for the zig zag.. and some of the unusual things that people have figured out.. but most people haven't. |
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Magic Kevin New user Maryland - United States 77 Posts
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I agree with makeupguy. I wish someone would come out with a Tips and Tricks book as well. Also, a video where someone literally shows you the WHOLE process of building an illusion included with the plans would be helpful for a beginner. I know, it would be long but some things like waiting for paint to dry would be removed but they would display a short screen saying "wait 3 hours." I know most of you will say that we should be original when building our illusions so that we all don't have the same exact things, but for the beginner it would be very helpful.
Kevin
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts
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MagicKAmazinG- there's the Dennis Loomis Doll House DVD which goes fairly in depth. I've got it, and recommend it. And one of these days, I'm even going to build the illusion...
The problem with providing exact measurements on plans is that illusions should pretty much be built around the assistant, and most assistants have different measurements. A frequently recommended piece of advice is to build a mock-up from cardboard to adjust the measurements before building the final illusion. -Erik
Self-proclaimed Jack-of-all-trades and google expert*.
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Magic Kevin New user Maryland - United States 77 Posts
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Right, I understand that each assistant is different, but a DVD showing everything from square one, planning, getting materials, cutting the wood, routing, drilling, painting, finishing, and more would still be helpful. I think you get the point. It is just that I would rather have too much information than too little. A even mock-up building segment should be included as well. When you say the Dennis Loomis Doll House DVD goes fairly in-depth, what exactly do you mean. I actually was thinking of building a subtrunk, but how easy is a doll house to make compared to a subtrunk. Obviously, if you really want the doll house look the painting is going to be very in depth. Does Loomis show all the steps to it and really show you how to construct it, finish it, and everything? Even, if I don't construct the doll house, I think though it still might help me better understand some building techniques.
I have the Illusion Systems from Paul Osbourne and it is very helpful, except I wish the plans were more detailed. Do you suggest the Rand Woodbury illusionworks volumes? Also, I have worked with wood before and know how to use the tools, but I am not so sure how practical it would be to just as a first project, build a subtrunk or another illusion. Maybe everyone should try to compile a list of some beginner projects progressively working towards a bigger illusion. What do you think about the "Seed Money Box" in the illusion system 1 book? Would that be good to try out? Wow this is getting a bit long and overwhelming, better stop here. 
Kevin
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makeupguy Inner circle 1411 Posts
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If you can find them.. get the rand woodbury books AND DVD's.
In order to put out a DVD with a "start to finish" complete illusion.. you'd have to almost teach all the basic woodworking to go with it.. let alone design philosophy, exterior decorating.. and lord knows what else. I can imagine that a single DVD, taught by someone who's as thorough as I am.. would be about 30 volumes long. If you're not experienced enough a performer AND wood/metal worker to build a basic illusion.. you should probably buy one or two built by a decent builder.. that alone can teach you LOADS and LOADS. I was lucky. I worked for Paul Osborne for 3 years.. and in the process worked with about 20 major illusions by virtually every builder in the biz. Martin Eldrige (who used to build some of the best stuff in the biz.. but is out of business), David Mendoza (who's attention to the detail and the durability of his illusion is legendary), to Paul Himself, (also built to LAST and LAST).. to Chalet and more. All of them had pro's and cons. I wasn't afraid to sometimes make SIGNICANT changes to the illusions to make them more practical for me.. or to make them easier to perform 3 to 11 shows a day.. six to seven days a week. in the meantime.. the Dennis Loomis Dollhouse plans are pretty amazing.. |
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Dennis Loomis 1943 - 2013 2113 Posts
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Thanks, makeupguy. For those that would like to read more about my Doll House DVD, here's the link:
https://loomismagic.com/item18251.htm Dennis Loomis
Itinerant Montebank
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Magic Kevin New user Maryland - United States 77 Posts
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On 2009-01-12 19:37, makeupguy wrote: Thanks for your reply! So, if I really want to get started I should buy the Woodbury books and DVD's. Do you think the DVD's alone are a good start, because the books I think are a bit more? I guess I understand why someone can't really make a complete guide to building illusions, but it sure would be helpful. Do you have any really good woodworking or even exterior design books you would recommend? I definitly have no experience with metal working, but I do have some experience with woodworking, which gets to my other question. Is there some smaller illusion that would be a good first illusion for anyone like me? Preferably something that only uses wood (and obviously a finish of some sort.) For someone like me who is still in high school, but very interested in stage illusion it is a bit hard to buy illusions from well known builders. I small close-up or even stage trick is not too much of a problem, but a whole illusion is just a little expensive for a student like me. Even if I did get an illusion I would learn a lot about its structure and its obvious construction techniques, but I wouldn't know how they did the finishing touches and very inner details.
Kevin
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makeupguy Inner circle 1411 Posts
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Here's my suggestion..
Build someting that has a beginning midddle and end.. That is.. Not a vanish or an appearance.. One of my first illusions was a crystal casket.. and once I made my assistant appear.. my next trick was.. the square circle or the tricky bottles? I had a lot to learn.. fortunately.. I did. Mostly from working for Paul.. who to this day I think is an occasional genius. |
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chefmagic Regular user 166 Posts
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Where can I purchase the plans to build Jim Steinmeyer's " hospitality illusion ? I have the summer off and would love to try and build before the winter.
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AlexBorsci New user Italy! 34 Posts
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On 2009-04-12 17:37, chefmagic wrote: You can find the plan in Modern Art and Other Misteryes... by Jim Steinmeyer |
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magicmonk New user Donald Monk 23 Posts
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Reading through the posts the one question that I would like an answer on was from Engine (!) in October '08. Unfortunately nobody gave him an answer. Can anybody tell me if there is anything different with Creative Magic's version of Bryce's Screen over Paul Osborne's version?
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magic4545 Inner circle Jimmy Fingers 1163 Posts
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http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......&forum=7
Huge improvements, simplification, justifications for actions, conceptually. JF |
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DN777 Veteran user 360 Posts
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If you can get a hold of the originals there are some real gems in there!
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MrPrestoHypno Regular user 190 Posts
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I have always found that the plans in any of the books general lack "detail" information. One should have at least basic blueprint reading, and general wood working skills. I have built Modern Art and after building it could make several suggestions and improvements if I had to build another one. I would suggest making a cardboard (corrugated is the correct term) model first and use this as your template and guide for your final product. Good Luck!
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jsmithii68 New user 12 Posts
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Can anyone tell me if Paul Osborne's dinner for two is a one man illusion I mean can one person pull it off alone? or is this a production that takes two or more people? I'm interested in buying illusion book 2 which has this illusion but don't want to spend the money unless its something I can pull off myself.
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TaylorReed Special user Branson, MO 743 Posts
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Does anyone know why this thread is always on the top? It never moves...
Just thought I'd ask. Taylor
www.taylorreed.com
www.usedmagicillusions.com taylor@taylorreed.com (979)482-0714 See: The Magic and Comedy of Taylor Reed, Live in Branson, Mo |
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w_s_anderson Inner circle The United States 1227 Posts
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They made it a "Sticky" topic. I think the stick topics always stay at the top of the pages. There are some other forum topics that have these as well.
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