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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
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On Dec 24, 2020, AutarchicFlux wrote: Is that because it's not a magic routine but a Mentalism routine? |
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no2ss Inner circle California 1027 Posts |
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On Dec 24, 2020, AutarchicFlux wrote: Do you feel the same way about the 10 card poker deal? Basically the same effect and gets praised widely. And if you don't like the "influence" angle there are more "magical" methods, such as having a magic... thing (coin? pen? whatever?) and whoever is holding it is guaranteed to win. Lots of ideas you can build on here. |
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
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On Dec 20, 2020, Oliver Munoz Gutierrez wrote: More interesting? Good luck with that. |
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dvno Special user Hamburg 570 Posts |
Some of you asked if this was available with bicycle cards. I ordered from magic-harri.de and got bicycle.
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Mr. Mindbender Inner circle 1566 Posts |
For those saying that the 4 phase game of Blackjack isn’t their cup of tea, know that Luke goes into the thinking behind why he chose that version for the trailer, but that he offers several different presentational approaches in the download, and the method is flexible enough to allow you the freedom to create many other routines.
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
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On Dec 27, 2020, Mr. Mindbender wrote: I think that's exactly the way to look at it. The basic mechanics of the effect lends itself to a surprising variety of presentations. |
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AutarchicFlux Special user 583 Posts |
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On Dec 25, 2020, Martin Pulman wrote: Mentalism is great, but this is just boring and transparent. |
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dvno Special user Hamburg 570 Posts |
I think it’s as boring as you present it 🤷♂️
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reignofsound Inner circle Glasgow, UK 2199 Posts |
I’ve got good reactions with this.
Horses for courses I guess. |
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
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On Dec 27, 2020, AutarchicFlux wrote: I don't see how it can be transparent to lay people? They are being offered the cleanest of choices every time, from their point of view, no? |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12938 Posts |
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On Dec 27, 2020, AutarchicFlux wrote: ? |
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walkernick86 New user 24 Posts |
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On Dec 24, 2020, AutarchicFlux wrote: You don’t have a clue what you are talking about! I keep saying this, and I will say it again! This is a Derren Brownesque routine! Just look at how many people love DB’s stuff! Now look at this routine by Luke! If you think that your audience won’t like this routine, then go back to pulling rabbits out of hats! That’s what all the kids like who have an attention span of 5 seconds! This routine is for intelligent adults who love to question and debate the nature of free will and human influence! |
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no2ss Inner circle California 1027 Posts |
Also, if you think this is boring then I suggest watching Ricky Jay's poker deal routine in "Hustlers, Hoaxsters, Pranksters, Jokesters" which Luke says inspired this effect. That is... anything but boring. Of course, how you perform it matters quite a bit.
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walkernick86 New user 24 Posts |
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On Dec 28, 2020, no2ss wrote: Agreed mate. |
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
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On Dec 28, 2020, no2ss wrote: That really is a classic of the genre. But then, Ricky Jay was a very good actor. As is Derren Brown. I think people underestimate how much Derren is bringing to routines like this with his performance ability. Luke Jermay can't quite bring it off in the same way. His delivery is a little too pedantic. A little over-rehearsed. But the thinking behind the effect is very strong. If people don't like this more confrontational approach there is a very good alternative using a pendulum (which isn't necessary) that makes the spectator the star. |
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walkernick86 New user 24 Posts |
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On Dec 29, 2020, Martin Pulman wrote: I agree. DB brings so much in terms of performance to his routines, and that is what really makes it. Like any good performance. I also agree that Luke could bring more to his performance of HIT as seen in the trailer. I am sure there are many great mentalists out there that will really make this routine their own. |
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reignofsound Inner circle Glasgow, UK 2199 Posts |
I think Luke does a grand job on the performance of this.
Simple and easy to follow for the spectator. This is a great routine and one of my better purchases of 2020. |
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no2ss Inner circle California 1027 Posts |
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On Dec 29, 2020, Martin Pulman wrote: Yes, exactly. The performance style matters. And if you don't want the confrontational approach, then Luke offers many excellent alternatives. The pendulum one is a great option. But there are lots of other ideas as well. Basically you're set up so that whoever you want can win a blackjack routine over multiple rounds. There are tons of routines that can work for that in very magical and spectacular ways even if you don't want to take the Ricky Jay super confrontational performance. |
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ebursztein New user 3 Posts |
Ordered it a while back and just finally got the chance to look at it last night. I love it BUT there is a slight problem with the cards choice. I don't want to expose it so can't say to much but let just say there is a pattern between the phases. This bothered me all night so today took the time to write a little program to find the optimal solution to the issue. I thought I would make it available to all of you that might want to tweak their version so its even more deceptive
- Luke original configuration give you those table: https://github.com/ebursztein/hitmeup/bl......9_2_3.md - You can decide to "widen" with this: https://github.com/ebursztein/hitmeup/bl......9_2_3.md - Or even this: https://github.com/ebursztein/hitmeup/bl......0_2_3.md Note: I had to find the right balance between making the tables legible and avoiding exposing the method so feel free to PM me if you want more details. The code is also available under CC0 if you want to brew your own: https://github.com/ebursztein/hitmeup Happy new year! |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12938 Posts |
Luke's performance was to sell the effect to us. He didn't have a big audience or anything like that.
His pendulum esp effect was much better if you watched it as well he had an audience. Looked like a possible paying gig. |
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