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Niko
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I have been practicing the coin roll at every opportunity I have had, and starting to get the hang of it. But I do not understand how you can roll a coin without having your palm face down, otherwise my coin just slides off my hand.
Any tips for this?
Thanks,
-NIk
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Mike Wild
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Are you talking about a palm-up coin roll? Or do you mean just simply leaning your hand forward and doing the roll? If you mean the latter, just catch the edge of the coin between the next two fingers and use a little pressure to keep it from sliding forward, and when it gets to your pinky, slide it into your hand so it doesn't keep going off the hand and onto the floor.

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Jordini
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Try using a really big coin. (I use poker chips the size of silver dollars.) Then when you try to go to a half dollar or even a quarter sized coin, it will just fly across your fingers.
Niko
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Thanks, I'll try that. How long did it take you guys to master it?
-Nik
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Mike Wild
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I'm not sure how long it took to get it down. Probably about a month to get proficient, and then mastery comes with time.

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I am not sure of your question. You can continue the "regular coin roll" by turning
your hand palm up and roll the coin on that side of the palm side of your hand.

After reading your question again, I tried to roll it on the back side. The best I got was about a 45 degree angle. Actually tilting the hand slightly gives you a bit of gravity to get the coin rolling.

As far as time into this flourish/sleight, it is something any 23 year old can do with 27 years practice. As above, I got the basics down in a few weeks to month and then added artistry to it.

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It's been over twenty five years since I leaned to do the steeplechase or coin walk thing.I regret learning the thing.

To date is a reminder to learn what serves me instead of what looks interesting.

I will have learned my lesson when I have the coin vanish handling of the thing in performance usable condition.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
Mike Wild
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Harris:

I'm surprised that you have a 45 degree limitation. I may do the roll differently than a lot of people, but I can go pretty much perpendicular to the floor and still roll the coin with the same look as when I do it with my hand flat, or at an upward angle. The only reason that I mention this is because now I'm wondering if my coin roll technique is not "standard". It always seems to look better when I watch others do it, as opposed to when I watch myself do it. I've often wondered if I've been doing a "training wheel" variation, because the coin will lock between each set of two fingers as it rolls down, instead of floating over the knuckles, which is how it looks when I watch others doing it. Hmmmm...

Jon,

I think the roll definitely has purpose. I use it not only to visually demonstrate an "empty" right hand, but also as a lead into HPC moves, dropping coins onto the mat, as in a one-at-a-time coins across (modified Flying Eagles type routines). It's a super form of "built-in" misdirection. but I know what you mean pertaining to people who use it only for the look. It gets old, like anything else, after once or twice.... Speaking of flourishes, Reed has some pretty nice ones in KB 3 & 4. I don't use flourishes myself, lack of desire, or lack of skill? I'll let you decide Smile, but some of them do have a very nice look.

Best to All,

Mike
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Liam Jones
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I can do it alright for a months practice !!!

I use half dollars
charlythewizard
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I try to do the coin roll with a quarter and got the hang of it within a week.
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I use half dollars, is about a month practice, now I can do any coin, just keep practice.
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I have always envied my friends who do the coin roll. After about ten years I decided 2 nights ago to really spend time on the roll. Now it almost, I repeat, almost feels natural. There is no other way but practice.

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I found that learning to do with with my right hand, learning to do it with my left hand and learning to do it with both hands at the same time were three different skills. At the time this surprised me, and it still seems a little odd. But true. That's where I quit though. I love to see the heavies do multiple coins at the same time on both hands. Boy Howdy!
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