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I'm not a card sleight of hand geek, I just use what I need to get the results I want. I have no interest in this product. That said, to start off saying you are better than someone who can't really defend themselves, well, it's just silly and narcissistic. That said, it sure has generated a lot of publicity!
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Its just an act...
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No one actually knows Erdnase for all you know I could be better than him
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I realize that Erdnase is an enigma, and you may be better, but you can't prove. What does it matter? I know your not the one that made the silly claim that has people riled up. I'm not riled up, I just think it is all silly.
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I personally don't like downloads either - they are harder to navigate and don't have menu's. I also like the physicality of owning something substantial for my money. I wish these big companies would sell downloads AND .iso files.

I'd download THAT and make my own DVDs

A big project like this... 8 hours and one of the downloads is over 2 hours long. Ugh.... I'd rather have a DVD
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Both WMVs and M4Vs are navigable in most programs. WMV - With Windows Media Player hit your Alt button, which brings up a menu. Then navigate to View -> Chapter Markers

In VLC Media Player there's little black notches at the bottom for each chapter.

In QuickTime there's a menu option on the player. I'm not sure where the current version has it, though.
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I personally don't like downloads either - they are harder to navigate and don't have menu's. I also like the physicality of owning something substantial for my money. I wish these big companies would sell downloads AND .iso files.

I'd download THAT and make my own DVDs

A big project like this... 8 hours and one of the downloads is over 2 hours long. Ugh.... I'd rather have a DVD

What are your thoughts on online streaming videos? Like murphy's have with a lot of their products?
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@Tom Wong

Again, I feel like I am getting "air" for my money - and the downside is I need a computer and an online connection to learn/watch magic? Lame. I'm a crotchety old man who still likes books. Let's just say I have a "work around" for streaming videos.

90% of the magic I own is on DVD and I can watch it in my blu ray player regardless of the format that it was given to me
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Biggest drawback to downloads is you can't sell them on if they don't suit you.
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Biggest drawback to downloads is you can't sell them on if they don't suit you.

and that is the biggest advantage for the creators
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@Tom Wong

Again, I feel like I am getting "air" for my money - and the downside is I need a computer and an online connection to learn/watch magic? Lame. I'm a crotchety old man who still likes books. Let's just say I have a "work around" for streaming videos.

90% of the magic I own is on DVD and I can watch it in my blu ray player regardless of the format that it was given to me

Fair enough.
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I personally don't like downloads either - they are harder to navigate and don't have menu's. I also like the physicality of owning something substantial for my money. I wish these big companies would sell downloads AND .iso files.

I'd download THAT and make my own DVDs

A big project like this... 8 hours and one of the downloads is over 2 hours long. Ugh.... I'd rather have a DVD

What are your thoughts on online streaming videos? Like murphy's have with a lot of their products?


I hate streaming videos. I feel like I don't "really" own it. I HAVE had an issue with a provider of a streaming video that went out of business and my purchase VANISHED.

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@1KJ I've written to the magician each time - and they have always complied with either a drop box transfer or a link to a downloadable vimeo file.
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David,
That is helpful. The one that vanished is gone and I tried to get ahold of the creator without success. That was an isolated case, but going forward, I think I will do as you suggested. I want to know that I own and have control of what I have paid for.
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David,
That is helpful. The one that vanished is gone and I tried to get ahold of the creator without success. That was an isolated case, but going forward, I think I will do as you suggested. I want to know that I own and have control of what I have paid for.
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Every streaming video that I have purchased has an option to download the video.
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David,
That is helpful. The one that vanished is gone and I tried to get ahold of the creator without success. That was an isolated case, but going forward, I think I will do as you suggested. I want to know that I own and have control of what I have paid for.
KJ

Every streaming video that I have purchased has an option to download the video.


If you get the download directly from Penguin, you can download it. Other companies, like Illusionist frequently do not have the download feature turned on. Also, many who use sites like Vimeo for their videos do not provide download.

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David,
That is helpful. The one that vanished is gone and I tried to get ahold of the creator without success. That was an isolated case, but going forward, I think I will do as you suggested. I want to know that I own and have control of what I have paid for.
KJ

Every streaming video that I have purchased has an option to download the video.


If you get the download directly from Penguin, you can download it. Other companies, like Illusionist frequently do not have the download feature turned on. Also, many who use sites like Vimeo for their videos do not provide download.

kj

That is completely fictitious. Every Vimeo video that I own has had an option to download, and the same for every Ellusionist video that I own. Also Murphy's provide a download link with all of their streaming videos.
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According to Madison's newsletter today, they are discontinuing this product to reformat and re-release on a later date.
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David,
That is helpful. The one that vanished is gone and I tried to get ahold of the creator without success. That was an isolated case, but going forward, I think I will do as you suggested. I want to know that I own and have control of what I have paid for.
KJ

Every streaming video that I have purchased has an option to download the video.


If you get the download directly from Penguin, you can download it. Other companies, like Illusionist frequently do not have the download feature turned on. Also, many who use sites like Vimeo for their videos do not provide download.

kj

That is completely fictitious. Every Vimeo video that I own has had an option to download, and the same for every Ellusionist video that I own. Also Murphy's provide a download link with all of their streaming videos.


I have more than a few streaming from Vimeo that do not have a download link or option.
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Thank you Matthew. I wish it were fictitious.

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