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WDavis Inner circle 1276 Posts |
Hello everyone,
I returned from holiday from Spain and Portugal and was rereading many of the threads that have been posted to since I left. I must say I'm a little saddened by the levels of defensiveness I perceive here. The threads have had direct or indirect snipes or squabbles. my personality's first response was to define The situation. We come and participate to this area because we all have an interest in business. Whether we want to call it pay it forward, give back, etc really doesn't matter. in the end, We are all wanting knowledge/add value/validation/satisfy some need or a variant there of. My measurements of the situation are nonstatistical merely observational, most of the recent threads devolve into bickering. Now if we analyze why this is the case, we may conclude over the years opposing opinions have led to bruised egos, hyper defensiveness, instigation and retaliation- directly or indirectly. This results in the communication breakdown we see in the threads. So how can we improve? By improving communication to questions posed. First if the poster of the question provides a business context for the question it will lead to more conducive responses. A business context is what market (consumer or professional), geographic region, legal structure, channels of distribution/ communication, etc. in short it's The Who what where when why and how of what you are doing. Without this information, all responses are essentionally shots in the dark. Secondly, responders to the question should also provide some context as to why they are replying with their response. This will allow others to judge if the answer is comes from a comparable experience or knowledge base to substantiate the opinion. And ideally, we need to have a control put in place. As we are adults and should conduct ourselves as such self restraint and discipline should be enough, but to start if someone posts a question or reply all we need to do is say, "would you please provide some context to support your post Quote:
on 5-4-2017, Wdavis said: does it pass the three step test? 1. Is it bs? 2. So, why should I care? 3. Is it actionable? In the end, I believe a properly placed communication structure for this sub forum will help reduce the animosity, increase thread activity, and improve actionable responses from the replies. Thanks guys for reading. Walter |
Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
The problem with your premise is to expect adults to act like adults.
Too many hurt feelings and bruised egos cause vendetta mentality and have puerile posting with no purpose other than to oppose.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
WDavis Inner circle 1276 Posts |
True, I am expecting adults to behave like adults.
But as a group, if we chose to provide context to our replies, we effectively change our behaviors and alter the environment here, and with everyone on board to this premise, the individuals' thoughts will be forced into a choice either leave or conform to the new dynamic. The result being less hostility and improved responses in the threads. |
Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I can give you an example of why that does not work well. Many here want all opinions to be equal. No context needed. Experience means NOTHING according to some.
Unless you can manage to get people to accept that not every opinion is created equal good luck. For example as far as kids shows, marketing them or performing them, chasing one night shows, internet ANYTHING or any number of 1,000 topics I am ignorant beyond words. I DO NOT SPEAK ON THEM, and that is pretty self aware. But not all accept this. You get the "I am entitled to my opinion" and so forth. I like the idea of having to provide context for answers. I just don't think it will catch on is all. I think it is a fantastic idea.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
WDavis Inner circle 1276 Posts |
We can only do our part and ask others to do the same, cultures change from the ground up. Personally, I will be providing context to my answers to start the ball. Hopefully, others will do the same. Thanks for the replies
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I will also and I have been talking with Mindpro about a thread idea that I have time to start now. It will be in context!
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......start=30
You seriously believe there is hope of people acting like adults?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
WDavis Inner circle 1276 Posts |
I do, if we choose to be disciplined and not devolve to the same. As I said earlier, when we as a group start to hold context to questions and answers, it will force others to do the same or eventually leave. Because 1. They will eventually be ignored (I.e. Don't feed the trolls) or 2. They will adopt our new culture.
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charliecheckers Inner circle 1969 Posts |
Context would clarify a lot of the discussions here, for sure. In addition to that already discussed in this thread, often people will add to the conversation quotes from other people that are taken out of context. For example, in the recent thread on social media, Gary Vanerchuk is quoted as saying: "Organic reach is dead. If you want your messsage out, pay", with respect to Facebook. Without context, the reader in the thread does not know if that means Gary would discourage an entertainer from using organic reach to serve a niche - (perhaps an exception to the general theme of his message or intent). Yet, here, the quote is used as expert testimony to our conversation and is offered as proof one should abandon such methods.
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