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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Hi all its very rare that I start a thread on a new effect but in this case I just had to .
After reading Marks fantastic book Harpacrown which is not only very moving , inspiring and filled with great ideas and routines and it's something I would recommend to anyone I had to find out more about his amazing creative mind . As a result I tracked him down at the Magic Circle and in the last year we have become very good friends , I do want to point out however that Mark has no idea I am starting this thread . Anyway to cut to the chase Mark showed me his new effect which I believe will be coming out in the next few weeks called Ophiuchus . For those who are not familiar with this word it's actually the 13th sign of the Zodiac which sits between Scorpio and Sagittarius and was discovered by Nasa in January 2016 . The effects ( these can be 3 stand alone effects or can be done as one longer routine which Mark performed on me ) Effect 1 , After testing my intuition using 4 beautifully printed Astrological research society intuition cards Mark was able to give me a reading and correctly tell me my star sign ( which he had absolutely no prior knowledge of at all ) Effect 2 , He then continued with more readings and correctly told me my exact birthday and year Effect 3 , He then preceded to blow everyone away by divining the star signs of others around me The amazing thing about this effect was I watched him perform this on many others that night who's intuition using the cards was identical to mine yet of course he was still getting their star signs and birthdays and year of births every single time and they were all obviously different dates etc . It was absolutely impossible to back track by highly seasoned mentalists and magicians , it really did floor not just me but everyone around me . The great thing about this effect is it can be repeated to others in a group without any chance of them having a clue on the method . Since that night Mark kindly sent me the method as it was basically doing my head in trying to fathom it out . The method is absolutely pure genius I needn't have bothered trying to work it out as you just can't , as like I said earlier it's impossible to back track . The tutorial is very well explained , Mark includes so many little nuances on how to take this even further and lots of additional ideas ie it's not just limited to star signs . It is not hard at all to learn but to perform it as slick as Mark does you will need to practice , however it will be time well spent as a small amount of memory work is all that is required but after all it is a mentalism effect . I would have to give this 10 out of 10 , I have absolutely no vested interest in this product at all I am a magician who does just a handful of mentalism effects but this will certainly now be another one . Anyone who knows me on here knows I say what I think without worrying about it so this is just a heads up to those it might be of interest to. Maybe Mark can chime in with its release date the price etc etc and where to purchase it from as I have no clue on that only that he said it would be released very soon . Great magic to all Tarik 😊 |
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SleepyMagic Inner circle Hopefully I'll pass my exams with 1646 Posts |
Sounds really interesting!
Would like to know when it will be released! Thanks Sleepy |
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SleepyMagic Inner circle Hopefully I'll pass my exams with 1646 Posts |
Also another question....are the 4 cards of astrology required to perform this?
Thanks Sleepy |
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Dave the Knave Regular user Cochise County, Arizona 163 Posts |
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On Jun 11, 2017, Tarik Flash wrote: Well, not quite http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy......ign.html |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Hi Sleepy , hopefully Mark will let everyone know the release date on here soon . In answer to your second question Mark does teach away of still doing this effect when you don't have the cards with you but that is a slightly harder method to learn . I hope this helps Tarik 😊
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SleepyMagic Inner circle Hopefully I'll pass my exams with 1646 Posts |
That's good to know! Will definitely be buying this!
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
Yeah, sounds very interesting!
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Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 4187 Posts |
Hey guys, thanks for the kind words about Ophiuchus Tarik.
I will say that a seasoned mentalist would be familiar with the method as it uses an old and in some cases well worn method but it uses it in a very justified way. However it can throw people off with repeats because two people that get the same results can have different signs and two with the same sign can get completely different results. Also the full birthday including the day, date and year is the bit that has been throwing a lot of seasoned magicians which makes me smile because the method is so simple. Ultimately do not expect new age revolutionary techniques, those familiar with my work will know that I tend to use classic methods combined with a solid routine and structure to hopefully make the whole greater than the sum of its parts. In answer to Sleepy, yes technically the 4 cards are needed to perform the full effects and for one of the three effects you need a little something else that many mentalists will already have. However the third effect comes with a method for getting someone's star sign without any props, although to get multiple star signs at once as Tarik describes you will need the cards. There are 3 effects included: The basic effect: You test someone's intuition and give them a reading and reveal their star sign The intermediate effect: You test someone's intuition and give them a reading and reveal their star sign and full date of birth Advanced effect: You test someone's intuition and give them a reading and then devine two (or more) peoples star signs. For those who have Harpacrown the advanced effect is my Star Sign Stacking technique taught in much more detail than in Harpacrown with everything you need. This part you could use to Devine star signs without the cards. Incidentally Tarik did receive a free copy but he actually wanted to buy it. Well it wasn't completely free I asked him to buy me a pint This should be released in the next couple of weeks, I am only waiting on the packaging. I will be releasing this live on the Alakazam Facebook page so keep an eye on Alakazam for full details. There currently is no demo but there will be a full performance on the Alakazam live. Ophiuchus has the following features High quality props included No complicated mathematics Fully justified and simple procedure Birthday can include the year Star sign can be devined without the props No threads, magnets, electronics or stooges. I have sent out some advanced copies and this is what they had to say about it. "This is not only a great effect to carry with you all the time, but is personal, engaging and powerful. Mark added a very clever twist making the principle invisible! Well done!" Luca Volpe The Italian Mentalist "With Ophiuchus, Mark has once again taken a powerful principle in Mentalism and sent it into overdrive. Not only does this effect have an engaging presentation and guaranteed impact on your participant, it's also perfectly justified at every stage, from every angle and the subtleties make it completely bulletproof. I can't wait to add this into my close up act!" Dee Christopher "Fantastic. It's so deceptive and covert. It's brilliant." Barry Fazackerly "Mark has taken a classic effect and hidden it in plain sight in the most logical and entertaining way. Ophiuchus is a simple yet powerful effect and, in typical Chandaue fashion, no stone is left unturned when it comes to method and presentation. If you perform magic in the "real world" then don't miss this opportunity to perform an effect that will truly connect with your audience." Roddy McGhie Mark |
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SleepyMagic Inner circle Hopefully I'll pass my exams with 1646 Posts |
Thanks for the detailed response Mark!
I don't mind carrying these cards with me! Any ideas on the price on this one? Thanks Sleepy |
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Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 4187 Posts |
Price is looking like $25 US or £20 UK but ultimately this could be affected by the overall cost of the packaging etc but it shouldn't differ significantly from that ball park. I have made the decision to supply these in a plastic business card holder to make sure the cards are protected and will last a long time. The cards are printed by Haresign Press as the Haresign quality is legendary. The cards really look gorgeous and completely consistent with their purpose.
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
To Sleepy I agree with you the cards imo are a non issue and infact actually make the effect for me as they are fully justified throughout as is everything in the routining . To me at least as a magician that makes great very believable patter and as Mark has said and I concur they are beautifully made and are of great quality . The method is completely hidden in plain sight as others have said but its the combination of ideas where I personally think is what takes this to another level regards Tarik 😊
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
To Dave the Knave I read it here , regards Tarik 😊
http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/barbara-holl......did-math |
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Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 4187 Posts |
Haha regardless of who discovered Ophiuchus and when or whether it really is a real star sign it did give me a nice name for the effect and if you get one of those rare smug gits who tries to be clever by identifying themselves as an Ophiuchus you can catch that with this.
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Absolutely Mark that's the whole point . Dave the Knave understandable not knowing the method doesn't realise the massive advantage of this anomaly Tarik 😊
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Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 4187 Posts |
Admittedly the one and only time I have ever had someone say they were an Ophiuchus their level of smugness was enough of an indicator to have revealed their sign without the cards lol.
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12941 Posts |
Tarik notes mark had absolutely no prior knowledge of his star sign. Wouldn't it be a simple matter of getting any café members star sign?
I mean, perhaps on a total stranger this would be OK but.... |
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Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 4187 Posts |
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On Jun 12, 2017, John C wrote: Tarik would be particularly difficult as I don't believe the Café displays people's birthday's, also Tarik is fiercely anti Facebook so not on there. However the night in question I was actually performing this in the Ibis hotel after the Magic Circle and most of the people I performed this on I didn't even know their names. The method is entirely mechanical and you need no prior knowledge of them to be able to reveal their sign and date of birth. Incidentally when it comes close to Tarik's birthday he is going to have to drop hints because I have performed this so many times I've already forgotten his birthday lol. Were researching their birthday on the Café part of the method I'm not sure I'd have received the above quotes, nor would I even consider releasing it. Other fans of this include Gary Jones, Wayne Fox and Peter Turner. Whilst this does impress magicians I created this to perform on laymen and have been doing so long before I produced the cards. The original version used my business cards. 99% of the people I perform for are complete strangers, mind you the day one of those pops on here to talk about an effect I have performed I will be very worried. Mark |
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
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On Jun 11, 2017, John C wrote: you mean perform for a total stranger?! what the...!!!!
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
I've actually had a look at the instructions now via Mark himself... I do like this, for once, the justification for the cards and what gets done with them is simple and logical - and the guts of the entire thing isn't just the reading or the reveal, but its the natural combination of the two...seen a pdf of the cards, and for once they don't look like a toy or something OTT...they look clean and crisp and straight forward...so I'll be ordering it when its out in a couple of weeks...
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BMWGuy Inner circle Texas 2562 Posts |
Hey guys,
So I have a confession to make, I collect bday divination effects, and have performed practically all of them, from Zodiac found inside Capricornian Tales, to Ran Pink's Zen System, to Sudo Nimhs Eclipse, to Peter Turner's work on bday divinations. Currently I use Eclipse with my own variation of Sudo's wonderful routine, and at times use Peter Turner ploys as well. Mark and I discussed this at length, and have taken a look at the cards that you will be supplied, and they are beautiful. The method, though old, is easy, foolproof, and its all in the presentation that you give it. I like the fact that you can divine multiple pieces of information from multiple spectators, like for example, when you read 2 spectator's minds. This is great, and I would have gladly paid double the cost, based on Mark's wonderful presentation, premise, as well as all the added bits and pieces that make this work stand out. I will perform this, as I have other bday divination effects, and between Sudo's, Peter's, and Mark's I now have a toolbox of techniques and methods that I can choose from to go out and divine people's star signs and bday's Harpercrown was an exceptional piece of work, and this new work called "Opiuchus" is equally good. I believe Mark is working on Harpercrown 2, and I cannot wait to see what he has in store for us. Thanks Alex Alejandro
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