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Kuroth
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Payment sent.. Hopefully I got in on the Pre-Order since I have not seen anything official saying Pre-Orders are over..

Thanks!
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How can and where do you pre-order Isabella star 3. Thanks.
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Page 1 of this thread I believe
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A review of 'Isabella's Star 3' is here.

https://mentalismreviews.wordpress.com/
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On Aug 30, 2017, Martin Pulman wrote:
A review of 'Isabella's Star 3' is here.

https://mentalismreviews.wordpress.com/


Goodness, what a refreshing review. It feels strange to read an honest review after spending time on the magic Café. Some positives, some negatives. As you would expect from any effect. Its almost as if the person writing the review isn't just writing cut and paste superlatives so the creator will pretend to be their friend and people will send them more free stuff to review. Take note magic Café reviewers, this is how to write a review.
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It begs the question though, who wrote the review? they must know someone to get a review copy... its not been released yet has it...

so, why don't they put a name to the review, so it helps purchasers know who they are, what scenarios they perform under, how experienced they are and so on...

not complaining, just asking for transparency... Smile
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On Aug 30, 2017, IAIN wrote:
It begs the question though, who wrote the review? they must know someone to get a review copy... its not been released yet has it...

so, why don't they put a name to the review, so it helps purchasers know who they are, what scenarios they perform under, how experienced they are and so on...

not complaining, just asking for transparency... Smile



Agreed, I also feel reviewers should identify themselves (along with their credentials)...that helps to provide verifiable credibility to reviews.


The review blog also states:


"Welcome.

This is a site featuring reviews of mentalism products. The reviews you will find here are all simply my personal opinion, but it will be an honest opinion. I hope they may be of some use to you."



So...I assume this is a brand new blog, and we are to expect more reviews in the future...cool!
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If not knowing who someone is - is the price to pay for honest reviews... I think it's worth paying

It does bore me that certain ppl pop up and give everything great reviews [and they never buy the items]

Either they just love all free stuff

Or they only review the free stuff they like

My guess is - the price to keep getting free stuff, is to 'love' everything you get

I would like it if ppl were honest and made it clear they did NOT pay for the thing they are reviewing - that [to me] is more important than someone posting 'honest' reviews but not saying who they are
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I am lucky to have made some friends over the years who confide in me.

This times I get something I dislike, I generally tel the person up front that I can review it, but it would be a harsh one. I let them decide if they'd rather me review it ("no publicity is bad publicity") or to not post. They generally go for not to post which is why a lot of my reviews are positive.

Also, a lot of my reviews are positive because I just so happen to have friends that produce great material and I can wholeheartedly back up what I'm saying.

I'll never say something is good if I don't believe it to be true just to "keep friends." I will also ALWAYS say I received a review copy of asked.

Just my person philosophy of reviewing Smile

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Real honesty and thoughtfulness by mentalismreviews.
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On Aug 30, 2017, MadisonH wrote:

Just my person philosophy of reviewing Smile

Madison


But the 'job' of a reviewer is to let people know if something is [in your opinion] good or bad

If you are only putting up reviews of stuff you like - then [by omission] you are never 'helping' people to not waste money on items you think are sub-par

You are only doing half your 'job'

If that’s' not your job [reviewing - and I don't mean whether you are paid to do it, but what the purpose of your reviews are for] - then you are just running PR/publicity for your friends.

So again - someone not giving their name but giving honest reviews is so much more important than your puff pieces on things you like from people you get on with
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On Aug 30, 2017, The Duster wrote:
So again - someone not giving their name but giving honest reviews is so much more important than your puff pieces on things you like from people you get on with


This man speaks the truth
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You're right Duster!

The truth of the matter is... I don't get review copies of many effects or books that aren't good. Because I am picky about what I spend my time reviewing as I like to be very in depth and that takes up a lot of my time.

The number of "bad" things I've received is literally about 5 in the past 3 years.

But you're totally right! From now on, I'll post my thoughts no matter how ugly. I want to be an opinion people can trust. I like hearing feedback like this. As now I'm aware of what will make people trust my reviews even more so and that is seeing a bad review every now and then. Smile

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Https://mentalismreviews.wordpress.com/

That was a GREAT review. Thank you.
More.
More.
More.

252Subtle?

:)
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Problem also is, after now eight pages of positivity,
Here on the Café
So I went with it, and I've spent the $45
Hopefully, I won't regret it too much
But all in all, after reading that review,
Pretty sure I would not have purchased
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On Aug 30, 2017, The Duster wrote:
If you are only putting up reviews of stuff you like - then [by omission] you are never 'helping' people to not waste money on items you think are sub-par

You are only doing half your 'job'

I utterly disagree. Such a position sounds awfully "blame anyone but myself"-ish. Just like learning if a reviewer (of anything) has similar tastes to yours, one should learn that if nothing has been said, it might just be a good idea to do more research rather than jumping in and blaming someone for not reviewing it.

If you are going to Mexico and all I tell you is the great places to visit, to stay, and to eat, well, if you wander away from my suggestions that is on you.

Conversely, if all I do is tell you what not to do, see, and go to, then I have really given you very little. You still have no recommended place to stay, eat, or sight see.

Of much more value is knowing when a guy likes something is it going to fit you. For instance, back in the day when Siskel and Ebert were reviewing movies, the ones I liked best were the ones where they disagreed. It didn't matter who preferred what. If they disagreed, I would enjoy the movie.

Kinda like if certain wine reviewers give a score above 93 to a wine you can be pretty sure it will be an over produced jammy fruit bomb.

People take reviews as gospel when they really need to be reviewing the reviewers to see if there is a fit of opinions.
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People take reviews as gospel when they really need to be reviewing the reviewers to see if there is a fit of opinions.


No you miss the point

If the 'reviewer' - ONLY puts up good reviews, of stuff that he got free, from people who are his friends

The 'reviews' are no longer what they purport to be [that is 'reviews'] but are in fact just hype/PR

I understand it

You want to promote your stuff [whomever 'you' is, in this or any case... so in no way singling out PT] but if you say, 'I'm great'/etc it doesn't hold any weight. So you give free copies to some known friendlies - that always give positive 'reviews'

But those posted reviews are in fact worthless. Not because the effect [in this case, or in any case] are not awesome. But there is never any chance of depth to the reviews. If you can't get a bad review - than a 9/10.... is really a bad review. As the 'reviewer' never gives anything less than 9/10.

The review off site, from an anonymous person – is both positive towards this effect, and more importantly carries a lot more perceived weight.

So onto your point [that was nothing to do with any posts I made]

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On Aug 30, 2017, Tom Cutts wrote:

People take reviews as gospel when they really need to be reviewing the reviewers to see if there is a fit of opinions.

Yes.

If the reviewer is to be trusted. So they are going to give an honest opinion on what they actually think [rather than puff] – then you need to take on board both whether that reviewer tastes and yours match up, AND whether the item being reviewed is something that fits you as a performer.

But that is not what the discussion we were having was about.

For myself, I have learned the signs and am interested in working on some divination type routines.

On the one hand I don’t respect Madison’s reviews [as I know – without reading/seeing them – they will just be ‘oh this is amazing’] – but I have enjoyed his videos of performances [in the past] and like his energy – and so although I tune out of his ‘review’ posts, over all his contributions have been helpful and interesting.
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Hi guys,
Here is how I use reviews to my satisfaction.
A review is always a subjective opinion, as already stated so I look for people that have the same taste as me.
In my case Madison has never disappointed me. If he does review it positive it is safe for me. If he dies not review it at all, I tend to stay away.
Same as some members of the Café or some creators. Take Reddevil for instance. I preordered his newest release without watching the video, just based on his trackrecord and the opinion of some people who's style I like. I know that the style of the effect will suite me. This helps me

The rest is game theory, if I hit I continue, if I miss I distrust and will be more careful in the future

But it never takes the responsibility of my shoulders. If I pull the trigger it is my decision.

Is it perfect, no. But I have gotten better results and therefore am more satisfied with my purchases thanks to reviews, like Madison's. So please keep up the good work.

Just my 2 cents
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I can't guage someone's review fully unless I can find out a bit about them. You can still promote and be a shill and write a more open review.

Ultimately, I'll take the new review with a huge pinch of salt too.

I don't want the reviewer to be some big shot, just want honesty and a perspective that I can understand.

Otherwise, it's just a faceless review with a preview copy for free.

At least here I can review people's posts and contributions and make a judgement from there...
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the participant never writes anything down (this is entirely prop-less), quick to perform, rock solid in terms of method and very little procedure.



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The Mentalist reveals the thought-of-name and then reveals the participant’s exact date of birth written on a business card.



Confused... Is anything wrtitten down or not ?
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