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Better buy The Expert at The Card Table annotated by Daniel Madison!
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On Nov 22, 2017, Peterson wrote:
Better buy The Expert at The Card Table annotated by Daniel Madison!


I already did.

I have an autographed copy of the book with 4 decks of Daniel Madison playing cards. (I got an extra two decks on my order in return for giving a glowing testimonial about how wonderful and skillful Madison is.)

The complete set (the autographed book plus 4 decks of Daniel Madison playing cards is now being sold by me. The price is only $1,250.00 US. Kindly PM me for ordering and payment instructions.

PS As an extra bonus, we will include the name and address of Madison's tattoo artist, plus a 20% discount certificate for your first tattoo.

Keep in mind, people don't talk in hushed tones about Madison like they do about Joe Crist. Madison is so good they are simply rendered speechless. Smile
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I am not at all surprised. Joe Crist, by his own admission, is a cardshark, a cheat, who has made his living cheating others. Why would anybody assume that he is going to make an honest living now? I don't doubt for a second that he is a great cardshark. He may even be the best. But I also know that for most the book will not be worth anywhere near $200.
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I think he is just a joke Smile
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Has anyone here heard the terms "high line" in relation to card work or "kings" in relation to bottoms? Literally never heard them before Joe started an insta account. Just curious if they are well known terms.
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I am a bit surprised that nobody here never heard about this Joe Crist, as he is already mentionned by Franck Garcia as the Creator of a great top stock control - and that was in 1973!
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I am a bit surprised that nobody here never heard about this Joe Crist, as he is already mentionned by Franck Garcia as the Creator of a great top stock control - and that was in 1973!



to add, it is in the credits for Super Subtle Card Miracles.
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If I'm not mistaken, he also set a foot on the moon in 1969.
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If I'm not mistaken, he also set a foot on the moon in 1969.



I'll check that out for you Arnold lol
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Geez! Someone with some sense of humour...

I thought that quality was gone in 2017.

Thanks a lot!
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Geez! Someone with some sense of humour...

I thought that quality was gone in 2017.

Thanks a lot!


No problem... There's not much that I don't laugh at!
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I don't know Joe Crist, never met him and can't comment on his card table work one way or the other. However, with all the glowing and favorable comments given about him, he probably was or is a very skillful guy.

I have some observations on this though:

This typed up endorsement of Joe Crist's ability appears to be part of advertising copy - perhaps something is being "sold" here or this is part of a write-up in a book or article. There is no clarification as to where it appeared or its source. Without knowing who wrote this, where it appeared or its purpose, it is hard to validate its veracity.


Further, these are comments made by magicians, most of whom from a bygone era. Back in the day, very few magicians, including the "greats," knew very much about card table artifice. Because many of these moves were unknown to them, they would naturally be impressed to a certain degree because some or much of the work being presented was new to them. I would say that many magicians nowadays know a great deal more about card table manipulation, and can perform more card table "moves" than the greats of the past. The information just was not available back then.

Crist does not appear to be a hustler but rather a magician, demonstrator and student of these moves. Professional hustlers don't know or hang around many magicians personally, and usually the best keep their ability secret and don't "tip their mitt" to magicians at all. Also, doing fancy moves or even great moves with an abundance of skill has nothing at all to do with getting the money.

Finally, these endorsements appear to be in the days before a guy like Steve Forte came on the scene. One would be hard pressed to find anyone more skillful, as far as doing sleight of hand card table moves are concerned, than he.

No doubt Crist was pretty skillful and perhaps one of the best in his time, at least as far as "moves" go.

However, I think that AMcD's glowing and a fawning endorsement of Crist is greatly exaggerated and completely over the top. I don't think Crist ever stepped on the moon. AMcD is taking his hero worship of Crist too far.

But then again, maybe Crist did step on the moon. Smile
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I made an horrible mistake, in fact he is mainly known for his work on evangelization

Sure, he is now working under cover, that's why he removed the letter h in his name (same kind of ruse was used by Erdnase in the past). But it's not enough for fooling me, I know who he is.

He's sure is a famous Magician, he can turn water into wine. I hope it's French wine. It surely is, that's why he sells his book $200.
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I think that he is one of the best High Liner magician ever and that his Kings are serial killers!
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That piece of copy that Peterson shared I found intriguing in that one of the people mentioned as giving props to Joe Crist was Herbert Huncke, famous for having been a part of the original "beat" circle in NYC (Ginsberg, Burroughs, Kerouac etc.) back in the late 1940s through the 1950s. The Joe Crist on Instagram looks too young to be the same Joe the blurbs are about, but I think he is sort of "channeling" an era, as it were, and I enjoy his creative imagination. It makes me think of Andy Kaufman, and also Jim Carrey channeling Andy in the recently released Netflix documentary, who in his own mind really was lounge singer Tony Clifton.
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Tssss. Don't say something bad about someone praising the slip cut as one of the strongest moves ever for the gaming table. Someone asking you to buy 3 of his coming book in order to teach you... the one handed shift! (Another indispensable move for gamblers).

This man is a genius.
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@AMcD I can't wait for his booklet on the applications of the double lift for the card table Smile
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Tssss. Don't say something bad about someone praising the slip cut as one of the strongest moves ever for the gaming table. Someone asking you to buy 3 of his coming book in order to teach you... the one handed shift! (Another indispensable move for gamblers).


I tried for years to master the Erdnase one-handed shift but to no avail. In fact, every time I used it in a game, I would get so nervous I would drop the cards all over the table and floor. Because I looked so inept, no one ever thought I could be a "mechanic."

So...don't knock it. The one-handed shift did (and still does) have it uses when employed with the "dropping the deck" technique. Smile

Happily, since you mentioned Crist is teaching the one-handed shift if I buy three of his books, I sent in my order immediately. Now I am wondering. Since all the games I play in use a cut card, after the deck is cut and I do the shift, won't the cut card end up in the middle of the deck?

Maybe I should just ask my partner, who always sits on my right (ala the Erdnase method), to master the One-Handed slip cut. That will cure the problem of not allowing the player on the dealer's right to use two hands to cut the cards after the shuffle.

I wonder if only ordering 3 of Crist's book is enough. Maybe 6 or 7 might be better. After all, the more books you have, the more adept and accomplished you become...I think. Smile
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Keep in mind. The above described one-handed shift, in which the cut card goes to the middle of the deck, is not to be confused with AMcD's Greek Bottom. There is no relationship here.

In AMcD's Greek Bottom Deal the cut card is dealt to one's partner...a very important distinction. This fools anyone who suspects that perhaps AMcD can deal, or was even attempting to deal, a Greek Bottom.

AMcD's Greek Bottom Deal is more akin to my "dropping the deck" technique. The same clever "faux ineptitude" applies to both methods.

(I hope you members appreciate all the "High Line-Real Work" information you are being given here.)

@AMcD: Do you think anyone knows what the hell we're are talking about anymore?
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