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Leeman
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If you know the moves making up a routine is actually rather simple. when I perform I like to just go with the flow rather then have a set routine to go by. I think it is a bit more fun to start the shell game not knowing where you are going to go. obviously I know the different sequences I want to use, or know I can use, and which ones are more impressive so I can build to a good climax. but just feeding off of the audience and letting them kind of dictate where the routine will go is fun.
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Sorry to get so late to the party. It is great to see so much interest in the shells!

Contrary to Whit's statement above, the La Maggiore shells *were* designed to work on any surface.

There are many features to consider when choosing a shell set.

I spent about five hours developing a comprehensive list of attributes to help you determine which shells will work best for you. You can peruse my "Smart Guide to Shell Shopping" at:

http://threeshellgame.com/shopping.htm

For those of you interested in why I consider the Chanin Dip to be a less than desirable feature (and why I *did not* incorporate it into La Maggiore) check out

http://threeshellgame.com/shopping.htm#anchor101595

For those of you who prefer to hear about a product from the people who use it, check out:

http://www.threeshellgame.com/testimonials.htm

And on a final note, for those of you who would like to know what other information is available on learning the shells check out:

http://www.threeshellgame.com/resources.htm

Thanks again!

Andrew
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Besides LM and SfS shells, what do you guys have to say about some of the novelty shells put out by School for Scoundrels? Black Fox has two sets, one Egyptian Scarab set, and a turtle shell set. Since I'm going more for a "novelty" aspect with my costume and presentation, I've opted for the turtle shells. They should arrive any day now.

Comments?
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Dave,

You'll like the Turtle Shells Smile

They're about the same size as the LM shells, and they handle similarly; the ridges on the shells help me to maintain a grip in my arthritic old hands.

I've had troubles now and then with the scarabs (in the aforementioned hands,) as they're more rounded, and try to 'squirt' out of my fingers on occasion.

Black Fox is now selling a set of Ladybug Shells through Hocus Pocus; haven't worked with them yet, but I believe that a set is speeding its way toward me as I type this.
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Thanks, I should have my set today or tomorrow (I hope!)

I just noticed a thread about Black Fox has already been started, but I hadn't seen much yet from anyone who really owns them.
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Dave,

I have a set of the Black Fox Scarab Shells and like them a lot. I have never used them in a performance because they don't fit my performing style (I use the La Maggiore shells), but they handle well.

One bit of advice with the Black Fox shells is don't use the peas that come with it - get some Perfect Peas from School for Scoundrels or ThreeShellGame.com - it will make all the difference in the world.
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I thought of that... after I sent my order. Oh well, maybe next time. At least I'll have something to get me started.

I will be performing standing with a soft platform top(either padded fabric or suede leather)so I shouldn't have much of a "hard surface" issue. I'm sure I'll be ordering more SfS things soon, so I'll add the Perfect Pea to my shopping list.
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Hello its been a while since I have looked at any new work on the shells. I have been doing a version of Super shells and Phil Cass's routine for about 12 years and I use 3 brass nuts that are meant to cover the outlets for washing machines. These are a perfect weight and are ideal for many comic presentations (nuts are funny). I do like Glenn's routine and will certainly give it go over the next few weeks.
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I've been following the "shells" threads with interest and have said previously that I intend to get the S4S Street Shells. I am now deliberating on the tuition material.
If you had to get only one book or dvd or Video to teach the moves and basic routines, which would it be?

Howard
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If you want to entertain rather than scam money from patrons, I'd suggest Bob Kohler's "Golden Shells" routine. It's rather easy, entertaining, doesn't challenge the spectators too much (in other words, not as many chances to get caught) and builds to a nice climax.

It's available from http://www.schoolforscoundrels.com
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Thanks Dave,
My "mentor" Vinny suggests that, along with Phil Cass and Frank Garcia.I really just need one to start me off.

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Howard,

I agree with Dave, if it's a routine with which to entertain people that you seek, Kohler's "Golden Shells" video is the place to start.

If it's simply moves from which to build a routine, check Tom Osborne's "The Three Shell Game" booklet from the 1930's. There is much material in there for those with the patience to decipher it....it is confusing in the way it is laid out at first glance. Haven't checked current prices on this baby, but it'll probably cost you something like ten bucks, also available from the School for Scoundrels, and, probably, your local magic shop.

Or, if you're not in a huge hurry, the Scoundrels' material on the Shell Game will be released sometime; you'll simply need to wait patiently with the rest of us Smile
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I'm somewhat reticent about this approach, but to bring the topic back to the original question...

For those of you who want to see a side-by-side comparison of an SfS Street Shell and a La Maggiore shell check out:

http://www.threeshellgame.com/compare.htm

See for yourself the differences...

For a more in-depth analysis of why La Maggiore shells are superior in design and construction, see my Smart Shopping Guide for Shells at:

http://threeshellgame.com/shopping.htm

Andrew

BTW: The Tom Osbourne book is available from threeshellgame.com at its always low price of $5.
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Thanks, Andrew. Nice comparison. I felt it might be a little biased...

;)

Here is a picture of a real half walnut shell beside a Street Shell:

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And another one. In both pics the real walnut shell is on the left.

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Well folks, Ive had the LM shells for a while and they're wonderful - Whit's Perfect Peas are PERFECT, a few days back the Bob Sheets tape arrived from School for Scoundrels - WOW!!! Soooo .. . . I'm not taking any chances, I'm going to order a set of SfS Street Shells and enjoy both types!! Smile

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On 2004-04-09 16:16, Avery wrote:
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Paulbmx12345 wrote:
I'd get the street shells cause they are cheaper


I learned my lessons about getting the cheaper version Smile


I have the same question as posted earlier: Don't they look unnaturally big, considering how small the pea is?

No. They don't. They are from an actual walnut so they look completely natural and very real looking.
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[quote]On 2004-05-04 18:44, Frank Starsini wrote:
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On 2004-04-09 16:16, Avery wrote:
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Paulbmx12345 wrote:
I'd get the street shells cause they are cheaper


I learned my lessons about getting the cheaper version Smile


I have the same question as posted earlier: Don't they look unnaturally big, considering how small the pea is?

No. They don't. They are from an actual walnut so they look completely natural and very real looking.

I don't think "Size matters" that much in terms of the audiance perception. Just about everyone knows about the shell game. Most have never seen it. I have yet to have someone question the construction of the shells. Even my "chop shell" gets no interest.

Sorry guys, tried to add a quote to my post and it did not work right.

I have never had anyone question the size of the shells I used. Most people have heard of the shell game, very few have actually seen it, in any form.

My audiance seems to respond to the "illicit" nature of the shell game and seeing something that they have heard of but never saw.
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Of course it is just a matter of taste. I would choose the LM shells over the SFS shells any day of the week.

Whit's are good but Andrew's are 100 times better. Better by size color texture etc... yes the price is more but very worth it.
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I have both, the most recent being Whit's mag. set of Street Shells arrived a few days back. I think both types are GREAT and that Bob Sheets tape is absolutely BRILLIANT !!! That "move" of Bob's has rekindled my interest in the 3 shell game after several years of other stuff Smile
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