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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
Based on feedback from around the world, my "In Your Pocket" is incredibly effective - especially as a lead in to more complicated demonstrations.
However, 32% of responders say they will NOT perform it - either because they lack the confidence to do it, or they fear it will overshadow later demonstrations. Yes, if you "know" it will work it does! If you have any doubts, don't do it. That alone makes it powerful (Yoda - don't try, do!) Still free for the asking at ken@eversway.com with a commitment to feedback to me so that I can create better effects/descriptions.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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danielrmk Regular user 200 Posts |
Not sure if "the best" but the one I use constantly is Tequila Hustler, although I never use it as a stand alone effect rather than a something extra when performing some other closeup effect.
The most surprising and entertaining for me is hypnosis. |
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Matt Pulsar Inner circle 1130 Posts |
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On Aug 31, 2017, Harrybowman wrote: Yes, I understand that. There is a long history of people who are new to forums asking for the "best" of things. This yeilds discussion and a list of things to look into as we well see, but in our arts of performance we all will have different "best" effects for any genre. So Instead of getting a long list of ideas and things to read and watch, we could better give direction if we know WHY a propless effect is the focus. What is being performed in what context in your routine or show? Let us know more on your direction and we can better give ideas. Most of the effects being called "propless" today are best performed as a compliment to something else that usually involves some kind of prop, such as getting the star sign for a person who they are thinking of (and whose name they wrote down.) and then revealing both pieces of information. For another direction to think on, what constitutes a prop?
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David Thiel Inner circle Western Canada...where all that oil is 4005 Posts |
"Propless." Hmmm.
Performers seem to be fascinated with 'propless' these days. You COULD endlessly probe some poor spectator and magically (and yes...I DO mean 'magically') divine the word they are thinking of after only 238 questions. You COULD also lay out an impossibly complex scenario with rules for each and every answer...and memorize the endless 'if he says this...I must do this' variations. If you mean IMPROMPTU, I would lean toward Cold Reading or Contact Mind Reading if the group tended to be on the serious attentive side. If it's a lighter feeling and you don't consider a piece of paper a 'prop' I'd suggest the exquisite 50:50 Fantasia by Iain Rowland or a very basic Center T*ar. Find something you are comfortable with -- especially as a newly minted performer -- and have fun with it. There are a lot of very good options out there....many listed here in this thread. Hopefully this is helpful...and please note I was (mostly) kidding about the BA's and complicated lie detection methods. David
Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears. Bears will kill you.
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paul180 Loyal user 219 Posts |
Max Maven explored this concept of propless mentalism in the "Nothing DVDs" if I'm not mistaken?
A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a foolish man can learn from a wise answer.
Attributing negativity to a topic or post doesn't make the topic or post negative, it shines a light on the negativity of the person or persons, making the attributions. BEWARE these Debbie downers and anything they say. They simply lack the self esteem or good will, to be positive or productive. Your belief in self, is more important and is all that matters, for your success to be glorious. |
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ronzo New user 68 Posts |
Not really. Max used props like paper, pens and envelopes that were easily available anywhere. No special magic props.
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paul180 Loyal user 219 Posts |
To me the so called "best" propless work is that of cold reading.
True story! To hone my chops and while living in a major metropolitan city, I would board the metro and approach ppl and just tell them about themselves. Sometimes it got me dates other time bookings but it was just a way to practice my observations skills and use my Wonder Words. People like it when you can tell them things you shouldn't know so long, as it's not too personal.
A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a foolish man can learn from a wise answer.
Attributing negativity to a topic or post doesn't make the topic or post negative, it shines a light on the negativity of the person or persons, making the attributions. BEWARE these Debbie downers and anything they say. They simply lack the self esteem or good will, to be positive or productive. Your belief in self, is more important and is all that matters, for your success to be glorious. |
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Max Wells Regular user 150 Posts |
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On Sep 11, 2017, ronzo wrote: Are paper and pen really considered as props? |
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252life Inner circle Ninth Circle, Hades 3243 Posts |
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On Sep 2, 2017, Looch wrote: Looch, you believe in boot kicking people directly into the deep end I see lol. I've never been intimidated by a piece of mentalism since digesting Train Tracking. Hands down the absolute best purchase ever. In a fire, some people would grab 13 Steps. I'd grab Train Tracking. But, this reminds me of an old quote I came across, and it applies here; "Mentalism ain't cheap, ain't easy, ain't for beginners"
Look for all the world like you're counting the brain cells in his cranium.
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Mr. Woolery Inner circle Fairbanks, AK 2149 Posts |
I'm with Slim on this one. Palmistry isn't terribly hard to learn, there's no "trick" to it, and you don't have to tell people what it is.
I do add a small prop in the form of a tic sheet the size of a double business card, but that's only to help me keep them short and punchy. Without it, folks can expect much longer consultations. If you learn to read palms, you can also learn to like people more, to approach them confidently, and to relate to different walks of life with empathy. I'm not in the market, but I can see how it would be a very effective way to get a date, too. Patrick |
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
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On Sep 29, 2017, Mr. Woolery wrote: Yes, but what prop-less mentalism do you like? |
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Owen New user 56 Posts |
The Naked Mentalism books by Jon Thompson are very good IMO
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dcjames Special user 577 Posts |
Luke Jermay’s 3510 details all the work on his brilliant Touching On Hoy routine. As the name suggests it combines two fairly simple, yet extremely clever, methods to create what is, quite possibly the strongest propless mind reading routine out there. Touching on Hoy was originally published in Jermay’s The Coral Fang although, to his own admission, all of the cunning details and subtleties are laid bare in chapter 6 of 3510. There are also some new ideas that can take the routine even further. In my opinion Touching On Hoy - The Real Work is worth the price of the book in and of itself.
“Magic is very easy to do - poorly.”
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WitchDocChris Inner circle York, PA 2614 Posts |
Touching on Hoy is also further developed in Jermay's Mind. Or rather, the further developments are explained. It's a set of methods that he has spent a lot of time and energy on.
Christopher
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TheDBK Regular user 112 Posts |
It’s been said, and I’ll say it again: Train Tracking.
Also, when I don’t have a lot of time or I don’t want to peform T.T. yet, I’ll do Peter Turner’s Phantom Dictionary Test. |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12941 Posts |
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mindhunter Inner circle Upstate NY 2280 Posts |
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On Mar 3, 2019, John C wrote: I've heard good things....(I don't think it really exists, tho) Bryn
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debjit Loyal user India 213 Posts |
My new trick, The Social Prediction, is also a good propless mentalism effect. My favorite is DFB.
My new effect: www.penguinmagic.com/p/10638
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Dr Ross Loyal user Lincoln, UK 203 Posts |
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On Mar 18, 2019, debjit wrote: Can this really be described as propless? - Ross
Ross Bartels
Author of: 'Vector' (propless code divination) https://www.mindfx.co.uk/products/vector-by-ross-bartels-e-book 'Janken' (propless RPS effects) - limited release 'Tacitus' (non-verbal propless effect) - limited release |
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TheDBK Regular user 112 Posts |
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On Mar 18, 2019, Dr Ross wrote: Exactly what I was about to say. |
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