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magicmind Inner circle My fence has 20, 3416 Posts |
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On Sep 22, 2017, MeetMagicMike wrote: I own thisin walking liberty and I bought a single gravity flipper. It does not lock with the magnet "alone" as one coin. The magnet is to facilitate other effects using other magnetic coins of a set like triception. AGAIN, it doesn't lock with the magnet and if you pick it up, it flops open. Hence gravity flipper. |
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magicmind Inner circle My fence has 20, 3416 Posts |
You can also use the flipper in double deception, which I assumed is obvious, but did not state it above.
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tonsofquestions Inner circle 1895 Posts |
Double Deception (DD) is not the same as his NGF (Next Generation Flipper).
Double Deception Deluxe (DDD) uses the same new mechanisms as the NGF, so is "bandless" but is otherwise like the original DD. Mark Mason's site also claims it locks, and needs the included "unlocking system": https://www.jbtvusa.com/p/j-b-elite-line......swadling There's also a Triception set: https://www.jbtvusa.com/p/j-b-exclusives......rk-mason Which has some magnetic properties included, but does not normally lock, as you mention. I think maybe you have a NGF (or Triception set), and not a DDD? They're not the same gaff. |
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Slackerking Special user 613 Posts |
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On Sep 22, 2017, Colin (C.J.) wrote: Get your facts straight before you post untruths. Lax stopped posting because of negativity from other posters and nothing more. |
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tophatter Inner circle connecticut 3465 Posts |
Is this what Eric Jones used on AGT ? sure looks like it .Quarters are to small does this come in half dollars or Morgan Dollars ?
Thanks, Jeffrey |
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tonsofquestions Inner circle 1895 Posts |
Did he use a flipper? Absolutely. Did he use one of Mark Mason's Double Deception Deluxe (which Mark will certainly make in Kennedies, Walking Liberties or Morgans)? I'd say that's unlikely, but possible.
Because it's not handed out in the show, I can't tell if it was a locking one. It could be, but doesn't have to be. There are also other manufactures that make locking ones, even if it did. It's basically impossible to tell for certain without Eric telling us. A better question might be: could you do a routine like the one he did on AGT with a DDD, and the answer to that is yes. |
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Yuan Moons Veteran user 348 Posts |
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On Sep 23, 2017, tophatter wrote: I believe jones uses Schoolcraft gravity flippers. Double deception wouldn’t work due to the reset. |
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espmagic Special user 980 Posts |
If nothing else the original video teaches us that the internet has a loooong memory, so be careful what you put there!
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1939 Posts |
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On Sep 21, 2017, John C wrote: It's called effective sales and marketing. The magic production industry is finally catching on. With some aspects, exposing the secret can help boost sales. They are also learning that exposure on social media isn't a bad thing. Almost six and a half years later since this topic originated and you can still go out and perform with a flipper coin with satisfaction. All the countless posts about exposure.
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3643 Posts |
Any exposure is wrong, it is as simple as that.
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1939 Posts |
That theory is tremendously outnumbered.
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3643 Posts |
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On Feb 2, 2024, EZrhythm wrote: Where do you perform? If someone watches your act and then starts publicizing the methods, would it not affect you? It is never a problem until it personally affects you....then it is a problem. |
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DelMagic Special user 733 Posts |
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On Feb 2, 2024, rowdymagi5 wrote: Hear! Hear! I'm a bit old compared to most, qualifying for Social Security. I was bitten by the magic bug in the early 70's at around age 11 or 12. Secrets could be found through library books and magic items in toy stores. Marshall Brodien was big on TV and at some retail places. My mother purchased the Bull Bixby "The Magician" magic set and my brother and I started practicing. I also began purchasing by mail order from Brodien and learned from books at the library. Magic could be learned, but it wasn't given away. You had to search for it and actually read to learn. Several years later a magic shop opened up in my hometown and I really began to study. I eventually became a demonstrator there. I wasn't given any information about the local magic club until the owner was certain I was serious about magic. One day I purchased Milbourne Christopher's Panorama of Magic and some fanning powder. The owner said anyone interested in the history of magic and card manipulation had to be serious so I was finally told about the local magic group. Even in the shop, we were careful about selling advanced magic to people who were not serious about the art of magic. We would explain to people that certain items were for advanced or professional magicians and we wouldn't sell them to everyone even though they wanted to buy them. The genii will not be going back into the bottle, so the world of magic will never be the way it was. However, we need to be proper gatekeepers. We need to help people be serious students of magic and not simply well-informed observers. We need to have the younger generation understand that creators have the right to expect the protection of the secrets and routines they have created. Magicians certainly share among the group, but making items readily available to anyone who can click on a link is just unacceptable. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21569 Posts |
Oh no the exposure is wrong argument.
Ok it is wrong. Now what? It isn’t going away. But a donkey and find a windmill. Is this their own creation? If so they can sell it however they like right?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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1KJ Inner circle Warning: We will run out of new tricks in 4389 Posts |
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On Feb 7, 2024, Dannydoyle wrote: Or not sell it at all. It is no longer available on their site. I'm going to haveto get on my donkey and ride into the sunset... |
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1939 Posts |
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On Feb 6, 2024, rowdymagi5 wrote: No, it wouldn't effect me per my posts above on the topic. Your reply disregards all of my points. In addition a majority of people are not searching for magic tricks on line. Take the oldest effects in magic and you will have no problem finding an audience to perform for. Even the thumb tip has had great exposure and I still can go out and make amazement for people.
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1939 Posts |
Of course there is an argument. Considering the amount of what people are calling "exposure" that has been going on and continues today, there isn't any evidence being found that indicates a poor effect on the magic community. In fact, businesses such as Penguin are doing phenomenally well while many retail shops of all sorts are closing.
Exposure is increasing the popularity of magic, bringing an increased number of those interested in pursuing magic and increased sales for magicians and producers.
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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