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Wow, a comment specifically for the purpose of insulting me. I'm honored.
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... It made me think that this is just another manifestation of the price we pay in insisting on considering certain things from the past as sacred, without the possibility of reconsidering them in the light of new developments. ...


Dogma as entertainment? Nah, not gonna happen soon. Society needs it's trump cards and lines in the sand to avoid Hobbesian war of all against all - or so I'm told.
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Jon, how about entertainment as dogma. Neil Postman, anyone?

And Hobbes's state of war is in the state of nature: in a civil society or commonwealth a strong king has the Trump cards. Or so I'm told.
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Jon, how about entertainment as dogma. Neil Postman, anyone?


https://genius.com/E-e-cummings-poem-or-......nnotated

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in the mean time - consider calling your representative to see about the internet: https://www.battleforthenet.com/#widget-learn-more
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Wow, a comment specifically for the purpose of insulting me. I'm honored.


If you think that comment was made specifically to insult you, you're a little to full of yourself.
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Wow, a comment specifically for the purpose of insulting me. I'm honored.

If you think that comment was made specifically to insult you, you're a little to full of yourself.

I think that he got you this time.
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... a strong king has the Trump cards. Or so I'm told.


https://www.haujournal.org/index.php/hau......007/1013

The late twentieth century offered more than John Rrawls. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Theory_of_Justice

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Wow, a comment specifically for the purpose of insulting me. I'm honored.

If you think that comment was made specifically to insult you, you're a little to full of yourself.

I think that he got you this time.


Ah, not specifically insulting, just the usual expected insulting. Got it.
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Wow, a comment specifically for the purpose of insulting me. I'm honored.

If you think that comment was made specifically to insult you, you're a little to full of yourself.

I think that he got you this time.

Ah, not specifically insulting, just the usual expected insulting. Got it.

Just to be clear:

I think that he (landmark) got you (rockwall) this time (in the sense that his (rockwall's) comment was clearly intended to insult him (landmark)).
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Parsing for clarity?

Doesn't work for me.

I remain totally confused.
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Parsing for clarity?

Doesn't work for me.

I remain totally confused.

Then my work here is complete.

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Wow, a comment specifically for the purpose of insulting me. I'm honored.

If you think that comment was made specifically to insult you, you're a little to full of yourself.

I think that he got you this time.

Ah, not specifically insulting, just the usual expected insulting. Got it.

Just to be clear:

I think that he (landmark) got you (rockwall) this time (in the sense that his (rockwall's) comment was clearly intended to insult him (landmark)).


Actually he (landmark) claimed that my (rockwall) post was 'specifically for the purpose of insulting me' (landmark), not that it was 'clearly intended to insult him' (landmark). There's a difference. The comment 'may' have been insulting, (I (rockwall) don't dispute that), but to assume that the comment was 'specifically' made to insult would be in error. (Or 'clearly intended to insult' even.) My intent, (and intent seems to be what we are talking about), which I (rockwall), thought was clear, (but apparently wasn't), was to express surprise at Jeff's claim to have very similar political views to landmark. The portion of the post which some, (landmark) and (S2000magician) find insulting was meant to illustrate why I found his (Jeff's) claim surprising. i.e. Jeff's post about the nature of people who go on rampages vs Landmark's hilarious post about the reasons being, among other things, weak anti-trust laws.
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Just to be clear.
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Https://nypost.com/2018/02/02/discovery-......history/

Very cool.

I can't wait until they science the hell out of it.
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Just to be clear:

I think that he (landmark) got you (rockwall) this time (in the sense that his (rockwall's) comment was clearly intended to insult him (landmark)).


Actually he (landmark) claimed that my (rockwall) post was 'specifically for the purpose of insulting me' (landmark), not that it was 'clearly intended to insult him' (landmark). There's a difference. The comment 'may' have been insulting, (I (rockwall) don't dispute that), but to assume that the comment was 'specifically' made to insult would be in error. (Or 'clearly intended to insult' even.) My intent, (and intent seems to be what we are talking about), which I (rockwall), thought was clear, (but apparently wasn't), was to express surprise at Jeff's claim to have very similar political views to landmark. The portion of the post which some, (landmark) and (S2000magician) find insulting was meant to illustrate why I found his (Jeff's) claim surprising. i.e. Jeff's post about the nature of people who go on rampages vs Landmark's hilarious post about the reasons being, among other things, weak anti-trust laws. [/quote]

I feel like I stumbled into a bad Monty Python skit...
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I thought that even their bad skits were pretty good.
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Canada is (re)opening a debate about whether to ban handguns. One interesting point (which has been discussed somewhat already in this thread) is how a society approaches the question / debate of whether and how individuals should be able to own handguns when they approach it, more or less, from a starting point that it is up to the democratic society to figure out whether people should be able to own handguns as compared to how they approach it when they start with a position that people (good people, smart people, dead people) from 200 years ago should have the final word on this.
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I've done some recreational shooting (though not much), own part of a business that sells long guns and hand guns, and have donated to the defence fund of a farmer arrested for firing a warning shot at intruders on his farm, but I really don't see how hand guns do much good in society. We've already got them tightly controlled in Canada, such that just about the only lawful use is target shooting, and I guess that's a perfectly nice hobby which some people enjoy lawfully, but, you know, there are over 300,000 hits for hobby at Amazon. Maybe the target shooters could find something else to do.
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Interesting thread. I love how everyone brings up Denmark for good life, etal. It's 6 million people that are 85% white, Lutheran and Danish. No one mentions that part. When you say we should be like Denmark, you're saying we should be a homogeneous white culture. There are 93M gun owners and 300M guns. You can't take them away with out civil war. BTW, the NRA has < 10M members. Apparently millions of people have guns and don't shoot people. The issue will never be one of banning. Won't work. Too ingrained as part of our heritage. Small countries with compliant citizens can make it work, but it hasn't stopped shootings. Remember the worst mass killing is in Norway. Scandi's got issues too.

The real facts about the world. We are safer today than ever in history. In the middle ages, people would kill you for your shoes. We have fewer wars today than any time in history. Our species has had thousands of years of violence as part of everyday life. Most cities of the world are safe to walk any time of the day or night. Many countries have problems, they always will. Africa has had independence for almost 100 years, it receives hundreds of billions in aid. Nothing has changed. I guess it's not the money. South America goes thru periodic spurts of success and repression each generation. How come they can't make it work? It's the culture and how it views individual rights vs rights of the hierarchy.

Violence and evil perpetuate because people either ignore it or look for someone else to deal with it. In America, we still have a bit of self reliance and guns are central to that notion. I think Archie Bunker had the right approach. Smile


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Canada is (re)opening a debate about whether to ban handguns. One interesting point (which has been discussed somewhat already in this thread) is how a society approaches the question / debate of whether and how individuals should be able to own handguns when they approach it, more or less, from a starting point that it is up to the democratic society to figure out whether people should be able to own handguns as compared to how they approach it when they start with a position that people (good people, smart people, dead people) from 200 years ago should have the final word on this.

I have no opinion on whether Canadians should carry hand guns. I just wish I got the same courtesy in return.
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