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reignofsound
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My first magic book was by Paul Daniels in the 80s.
This is nothing new.
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Isn't there some magician's saying like:

The best way to hide a secret, is to put it into a book

I think with the name on the cover - this may get bought a lot more than it actually gets read
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Exposure isn't ruining magic...the poor performance of magic is what we should be concerned about.
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On Oct 4, 2017, Rocky wrote:
Exposure isn't ruining magic...the poor performance of magic is what we should be concerned about.


Which is exactly what will be happening when people buy this book
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I seriously, seriously doubt this book will have any noticeable impact on the percentage of poor performers vs. good performers in the magic world.

The fact is that the vast majority of magicians just aren't that good at this time. That's not to say that they don't have the potential to get better - but most of the people who do magic, do so very casually and have not put any real effort into honing it to a decent skill level. I think this is fine, personally. Some people will work to get better, some people will stay happy at the same skill level, and some people will drop out. Just like it's always been.
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On Oct 4, 2017, WitchDocChris wrote:
I seriously, seriously doubt this book will have any noticeable impact on the percentage of poor performers vs. good performers in the magic world.

The fact is that the vast majority of magicians just aren't that good at this time. That's not to say that they don't have the potential to get better - but most of the people who do magic, do so very casually and have not put any real effort into honing it to a decent skill level. I think this is fine, personally. Some people will work to get better, some people will stay happy at the same skill level, and some people will drop out. Just like it's always been.



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Dose anyone really care?? We now live in a society where someone learns a few tricks and then they are out street performing Magic next the new video game comes out and they go for that then they get married. Life is over. Let them play. Magic. Just don't buy guns.
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Dose anyone really care?? We now live in a society where someone learns a few tricks and then they are out street performing Magic next the new video game comes out and they go for that then they get married. Life is over. Let them play. Magic. Just don't buy guns.

That's what used to happen. Now we live in a society where someone learns a few tricks, performs them for a few members of their friends and family (if at all), they make some minor alterations to the tricks and then starts selling them on the Café. All within what seems like a matter of months.

And the general standard of magic gets lower and lower...
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So?

The market allows what the market allows. There's a whole bunch of crap in the magic world, sure. But the color of the mud doesn't change how a star shines above.

There's always been poor performers. There's also been good performers. The things that the poor performers do, I think, don't really impact the good performers very much.
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Martin Pulman
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That might be true in magic, I'm not so sure that is true in mentalism. The general public was exposed to so few mentalism performances that it managed to retain mystique and mystery. Repeated poor performances of mentalism -and the resultant exposure of methods- is harming its status, in my opinion.
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Also, the amazon page says about a trick which can give you 'super strength', if this is the trick I think it is then that would be a very big shame indeed as it is a great trick that he says his granddad taught him.


You do know that this super strength trick has been revealed before. In popular "beginner" magic books don't you.
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Dynamo is doing what he can to stay relevant whilst he finds his next project. It’s not about the book or the secrets to him, he probably doesn’t even know what the content is. The marketing on this is the relevant talking point, what better way to bolster that he is ‘magician impossible’ than to share a few simple effects which are pale in comparison to what he can achieve? In regards to the strength effect, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s one that he used on television. I can imagine his team deciding to put that trick in the book so they could say on the advert “Learn the secrets that Dynamo used on television to wow your friends”.

I think it’s aired at the right time two months before Xmas - I’m waiting for the television adverts to start.

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Yeah, there’s little surprising here: probably the majority of history’s most famous magicians put out books explaining effects sooner or later, many aimed at beginners. Thurston sold cheap pamphlets at the merch kiosk at his shows. (Blaine, you say? Give it a few years; he’ll have a kitchen to remodel sooner or later.) And realistically these days, any decent effect performed on national television is going to have an explanation a Google search away within 48 hours (albeit mixed with a bunch of erroneous ones), so it’s more a question of who monetizes it than whether the “secret” is available at all. Is there anything Dynamo does that you couldn’t already ferret out the method to with 15 minutes of poking around online?

For what little my own view is worth, the only “exposure” really worth condemning is of the casual sort: Parading methods on TV or mass-audience websites in a way that spoils the mystery for people who weren’t even making a conscious or sustained effort to learn them. But magicians committing their methods to books? Well... isn’t that how most of us got started?
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I don't see what the issue is. If Dynamo has changed his views is irrelevant. I would think that most us have changed our views and opinions as we have grown and matured. Why is that so weird?
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Yeah, there’s little surprising here: probably the majority of history’s most famous magicians put out books explaining effects sooner or later, many aimed at beginners. Thurston sold cheap pamphlets at the merch kiosk at his shows. (Blaine, you say? Give it a few years; he’ll have a kitchen to remodel sooner or later.)

Blaine released a book at the height of his early fame that contained beginners level card tricks.
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We all learned from magic books in the library...some by famous magicians like Blackstone, Paul Wilson etc. So not sure why anyone is even remotely worried about this. Dynamo has the absolute best magic set on the market bar none. Best I've seen in my 30+ years in magic. Yes it includes WOW and some other pro level effects. Should we be worried? Nope. Think about how tiny the population is that will actually buy a $50 magic set. Then think about how many of those people will actually spend more than 2 days playing with it. Almost no one. You'd have a better chance of hitting the lottery than someone calling you out on WOW because they own it.
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Not only is there going to be kids not properly performing WOW (hence ruining it) they will also all be making youtube videos revealing it in a bid to get views.
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Not only is there going to be kids not properly performing WOW (hence ruining it) they will also all be making youtube videos revealing it in a bid to get views.


Hasn't this happened already? Won't work, as the youtube kids have revealed WOW years ago.
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A book from Dynamo on magic tricks,do you need to buy a TV camera to perform them. Smile
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On Oct 4, 2017, RyanWhiteside wrote:
Dynamo has released a new book called his ' Book of secrets' in which he is revealing beginner magic tricks. I Personally found this out of character as he has never been one to reveal his tricks and he has said before in interviews that it 'ruins the magic'


Well these are only beginner level tricks already in the public domain. You said it yourself - "Dynamo has never been one to reveal his tricks." He's only teaching beginner tricks and not his TV show tricks because revealing those would indeed "ruin the magic". Ofcourse people know that there are beginner magic tricks out there so it's not a big deal at all and it's not even out of character for Dynamo.
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