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Expertmagician Inner circle 2478 Posts |
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On Feb 6, 2018, jf4viva wrote: I have not thought about the "replay" issue..... And, as I said above, I appreciate your uncut demo postings in this thread But, my argument about dealers selling well at magic lectures still stands even after the method is exposed. Please understand that I am NOT suggesting that any magic should be exposed when trying to sell product. But, seeing a 3-5 minute routine is OK with me and preferred.
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Expertmagician Inner circle 2478 Posts |
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On Feb 6, 2018, doriancaudal wrote: Mmmm.... No one shuffles like Leonart Green either, yet his magic is a fooler because of his "sloppy" nature which is intentional and makes "random" card shuffling more convincing in my opinion even though normal people do mot mix cards that way. PS: Casinos do "wash" new decks before shuffling...so, sloppy "washing" of a deck is somewhat normal
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The Duster Inner circle 1693 Posts |
I guess this is effect is not for me
As it looked a bit dull [in the video] - to me I'm sure it is perfect for others [so just my opinon about how I rate it for myself] In regards to the video - I'm not sure I get it - I guess you thought having a stripper would make it interesting to the magic buying public [mostly men ?] But the BBM / etc use of girls to sell to magicians never really works for me - it usually puts me off more than makes me think ['oh if I buy this I can impress pretty girls like Liam just did'] But this is the problem - the girl/stripper - is distracted. She's not really there. If you have a video where the spec isn't all that interested in the effect... if makes those watching the video think the effect is not all that 'interesting' I think she was too bothered having friends/etc walking about and so was not engaged with your 'show' Though it could be becuase the actual effect is not all that engaging... so we shuffle a load - and you tell me we shuffle a load... then there are ten cards face up... and they are all spades... it sounds better written down than it looked on the video Sorry to be negative I'm sure the effect plays a lot bigger But if you are going to demo it - make the trick the star - not some disinterested girl or the procedure I'm sure it has other applications this gimmick [?] some of them may be of interest to me All the best |
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TuneHV Inner circle New York 2063 Posts |
You must have missed the part where he said she "just saw me do it for [her husband] moments before. She freaked out and asked for me to do it to her with her number."
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Joe Roberts Special user 860 Posts |
This would have fooled me. And I can think of a ton of applications for it. I'm surprised by the weird negativity about it here.
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WitchDocChris Inner circle York, PA 2614 Posts |
If you can't see the potential for what this can do outside of what Mark is demo'ing in the video, then yeah, it's not for you.
I had an idea when I watched the demo, verified what I needed to know with Mark this morning, purchased it. I'll be writing up the full script later today, and this will go into the show I'm writing currently and will begin selling later this year. It's a clever idea and has a huge amount of potential. I wouldn't say it's "limited only by your imagination" because that's just market hype buzzwords at this point, but it certainly can be used for a lot of things.
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Expertmagician Inner circle 2478 Posts |
Hey Duster.....
While the woman was a pleasant bonus, I was able to evaluate the effect on the YouTube video demo as well. In my humble opinion, the question is whether the purchasing magician likes and wants to use a slop style shuffle to "prove" that there is no card manipulation going on. Rather than learn Leonart Green technique, it is my suspicion that Mark's Super Shuffle makes the learning curve easy So the real purchasing question is style...."Does your magic routine and personality fit slop style shuffles ?" ....if so, then this purchase may be for you !
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Doc Eason V.I.P. Aspen Colorado 429 Posts |
Doesn't take long to remember why I am not here. This trick looks GREAT.
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The Duster Inner circle 1693 Posts |
I like that you can have a stack [which in effect the phone number is]
At first [for a second] I stupidly thought that I could keep a 52 card stack [so in effect it would be a 'wash' shuffle - and then a 'free' deck change] But even having 13 cards - has great potential Silly question - presumably it has to be a deck of cards you use [as in the gimmick doesn't allow me to use blank faced bikes?] - just as I tend to move card effects away from 'cards' and onto words - or numbers Even as 'just' a normal deck, being able to select which cards is useful Final question... is it easy to end up with the cards 'not in the stack' face up - and the 'stack' as the face down cards So the spec/s can take all the face down cards - unknown to me, and I can then 'read' them [?] |
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tomd Special user 747 Posts |
Does it have to be the shuffle used in the demo or will all types of shuffles work?
What is the reset like? Is the gimmick applied to the entire deck? (To rephrase, can I steal out the gimmick and carry on as normal, or would I need to change decks?) Looks great so far. |
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jf4viva Veteran user 323 Posts |
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On Feb 6, 2018, The Duster wrote: Duster you can use the gimmick for blank face cards. You will just have to do a little altering to the gimmick. And yes! You can definitely do a psychometry type effect and make the non stack card so face up and the stack cards face down. Good questions. Tomd all shuffles can be done with the gimmick, it just allows for more haphazard and chaotic shuffling. But you could do riffle, faro, over hand etc The gimmick is applied to only the stack being protected and no deck switch needs to be done in order to continue your performance. Reset is also instantaneous. As soon as you finish the effect you can put your stack back and you’re ready to go. Reset is about as fast as putting a deck of cards into a box Thank you Mark Calabrese |
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Last Laugh Inner circle Grass Valley, California 3498 Posts |
You can Faro with the gimmick? Surely not a perfect faro though, since that would, by definition, alter the order of the st*ck?
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The Duster Inner circle 1693 Posts |
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On Feb 6, 2018, Last Laugh wrote: I wouldn't have thought so - the gimmick will take care of that Maybe it will be awkward as not all 'cards' will be the same thickness |
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jf4viva Veteran user 323 Posts |
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On Feb 6, 2018, Last Laugh wrote: You can faro the cards not being protected. To an audience it looks like the cards are being Faroed |
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Last Laugh Inner circle Grass Valley, California 3498 Posts |
Okay got it, that makes sense, thanks.
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MitchC Elite user Can't believe I only have 415 Posts |
A tad pricey but I WILL be getting this for sure.
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cardbiker Inner circle 1484 Posts |
If this works how I think it does I saw Henry Evans do this about 10 years ago where he dropped a pack of cards in a paper bag and got an audience member to shake it up and he still managed to pull out the correct cards
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jf4viva Veteran user 323 Posts |
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On Feb 6, 2018, cardbiker wrote: Sent you a pm Mark Calabrese |
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TuneHV Inner circle New York 2063 Posts |
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On Feb 6, 2018, cardbiker wrote: I think you are referring to his effect A Keen Sense Of Touch. I suppose that method could work here, but Henry does it for just 2 signed cards typically. That method might work for up to 13 cards in this context though, but not sure if this is the same method at play. |
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
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On Feb 6, 2018, cardbiker wrote: Is that not just using a force bag, similar to Rick Lax’s latest offering? |
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