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docguitarman Elite user Thousand Oaks, California 487 Posts 
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On Jul 14, 2019, egoli wrote: Ed, Not the same. Phil |
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Fero Loyal user 265 Posts
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Simple great effect.....
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DavidKenney Inner circle TX 1960 Posts
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Magic Review - The Trick That Can Be Explained by Mark Elsdon
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Fero Loyal user 265 Posts
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This is one of my best purchases in the last years!!!
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AndrewI New user 98 Posts
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I love this trick so much. I've seen a few people here and on shop reviews complain about the possibility of ruining the ability to show all the faces different once the pack has been shuffled by the spectator. Personally I just spread and show the cards are all different BEFORE I give them to the spectator to shuffle.
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PatrickGregoire Inner circle 1579 Posts
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On Aug 21, 2019, AndrewI wrote: That's a really good, simple solution. Thanks |
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Philippe Special user 619 Posts
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Surely a br___her does the same? Perhaps I am missing something!
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AndrewI New user 98 Posts
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On Aug 23, 2019, Philippe wrote: Yes you’re missing the very clever and thoughtful details in this that make it lightyears more reliable than the simple method you suggest when in the spectators hands. |
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Philippe Special user 619 Posts
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Sorry Andrew 1 but I not convinced by your comment, a b.....er does do exactly the same!
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AndrewI New user 98 Posts
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On Aug 23, 2019, Philippe wrote: My comment is only based on my own experience of both methods. Try getting a spec to cut to your b....er after they have shuffled it to third from the bottom of the pack. |
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Philippe Special user 619 Posts
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The position of the breather stands out so they cut and complete then cut again. It is so easy but there has to be more to ME’s offering as you insist it is much more?
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AndrewI New user 98 Posts
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On Aug 23, 2019, Philippe wrote: Hi Philippe, if you have success reliably performing this effect your way, then you are absolutely correct that you do not need this. Personally I have performed it your way in the past and not had reliable success so this idea and purchase has been of great value for me. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 3260 Posts
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The B c...p and variants of have been used for over 100 years and are completely as reliable as Philippe mentions . Any card that is 3rd from the bottom it would make complete sense to cut and complete the cut before cutting at the natural br..k . Otherwise it would be ridiculous to get your spectator to cut at 90% of the cards down from the face down or up deck ? Gaz 🙂
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AndrewI New user 98 Posts
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On Aug 25, 2019, Gaz Lawrence wrote: As I said to Philippe, if you find a b completely reliable in the spectators hands then well done, and you don't need this. Although a b is completely reliable in my own hands, I have never found it as reliable with spectators, particularly my regulars who love to assert their own free will by cutting in all sorts of unlikely places! |
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rowland Inner circle 1255 Posts
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Looking at the posts on here and the way people are talking about a certain something being unreliable in the spectators hands made me wonder if they actually have the effect.
Mark has done something really simple which makes this effect much more reliable and surefire. |
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RNK Inner circle 4681 Posts
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On Aug 25, 2019, AndrewI wrote: Agree Andrew, I to have found the b c...p reliable in my hands but not 100% reliable in a specs hand. And Rowland, I don't think people believe a b c...p is what is used in this effect, only that this a one method that can be utilized to achieve an effect as such. But it is obvious that there is more going on in this routine than a b c...p. |
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Piz Inner circle Chicago, IL 1346 Posts
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Alternatively you can have a photo of the card posted on your Twitter feed or other social media, or you can message them at the beginning and they check the message at the end. The physical aspect of this trick with the envelop is where it's at, anything having to do with phones or social media screams bullcrap IMO,it just does not hit as hard.👍 |
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drawfull Veteran user qmagi.com 312 Posts
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On Aug 26, 2019, RNK wrote: Notwithstanding this particular effect at all, I find that if you have two bc's that are opposite in function next to each other then the spec will never miss. Unless the card is third from the bottom like someone else mentioned. There's a thing in The Jinx - which I think was Annemann's - which averts that possibility. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 3260 Posts
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On Aug 26, 2019, Piz wrote: Agree with this post and quote a lot Gaz 🙂 |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 3260 Posts
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Drawfull I agree with you too .
I haven’t got this effect but I know how to achieve it . I also know the variants on it as you describe , I don’t know if or how this differs from that Gaz 🙂 |
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