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CarlMcCoy Elite user 465 Posts |
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On Mar 19, 2018, MadisonH wrote: Mine too. Bent it a bit and waited a few seconds to then bend it some more to 90 degrees as I wanted to see what it would be like to bend it in stages (which was indeed harder). Left it 20 - 30 seconds and then attempted to bend it back...snapped immediately. |
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TheDirectionalist Special user I predict that I will have this many posts when you read this: 930 Posts |
And the mystery is solved of why they are so cheap..
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Lseeyou Inner circle 1271 Posts |
Got my keys today but NOT easy to bend... even my business partner struggled to bend them.
It snap in two aswell... Dave something is wrong and they are not like the ones the ladies bend not good at all |
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TheDirectionalist Special user I predict that I will have this many posts when you read this: 930 Posts |
Just got mine in.. Very hard to bend.. Can’t get it to bend to 90 degrees with my hands. So they can be bent back as well.. I was excited for these but unfortunately there’s no way to test the quality of them without ruining them.
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rowland Inner circle 1524 Posts |
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On Mar 19, 2018, Lseeyou wrote: I have pretty strong hands and I can bend them but not easily. I’m pretty sure a lady would not be able to bend these. |
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Lseeyou Inner circle 1271 Posts |
starts @00:30 *is it only me that sees 2 ladies? |
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rowland Inner circle 1524 Posts |
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On Mar 19, 2018, Lseeyou wrote: Mine definitely do not bend like this |
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TheDirectionalist Special user I predict that I will have this many posts when you read this: 930 Posts |
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On Mar 19, 2018, rowland wrote: Neither did mine.. Honestly I kind of want a refund.. Or at least keys that bend that easy! |
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The Duster Inner circle 1693 Posts |
I don't know anything
But am making a presumption here Maybe the first stock [taht was 99p] were 'better' - and then all the later stock [after the price went up 50p] is the more difficult to bend [ones that will break as well] Does that tally with those that say they have problems, did they buy them before or after the stock changed [with the price] I didn't buy any but was thinking/hovering over this item |
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The Duster Inner circle 1693 Posts |
Or - it could be a tempature thing... though propdog said that made no difference
It's very cold here in UK But then if room temp hasn't changed then outside temp means nothing |
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TheDirectionalist Special user I predict that I will have this many posts when you read this: 930 Posts |
I thought about the temperature thing. So I held one in my hand for a long awhile to heat it up first. Still didn’t bend easier.
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Bonz Regular user Twickenham, London, UK 168 Posts |
Hey guys, I've been thinking about this and I think I've solved it. I have tried bending a random selection of keys from those I have treated. There were some differences between them. When I heat these, I put them in a basket in the kiln and heat them to 700 degrees Celsius and keep them there for 30 minutes. But I think that the keys in the centre are not getting as hot, hence they won't be annealed as much. So I've done some tests where I've left them for a full hour at 700c and all have been identical! So from now on, all of these should be consistent.
If anyone has purchased them and is not happy with them, drop me and email and I'll either refund you in full or resend you some more free of charge Dave |
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
Fantastic gesture Dave. We need more like you.
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Colin (C.J.) Special user 564 Posts |
Agreed.
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rowland Inner circle 1524 Posts |
Top service from propdog as always
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mroek Regular user 180 Posts |
I haven't received mine yet, and I'll test a couple when I get them. Should they not work as advertised it is great to know that Propdog stands by their products.
The tricky thing here is that they are one-time use items, so you can't really test them... |
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mroek Regular user 180 Posts |
I actually received mine just now, and immediately tried to bend one. I could bend it, but I doubt very much that my wife would have been able to. I bent it to 90 degrees, and it did not snap, but it took quite a bit of force.
It feels to me that to have a good reaction it should have bent more easily. Is there some way we could establish a method to describe how much force is really needed? Like establishing some reference common item that one could try to bend, and that takes about the same force as a proper Easy Bend Key? Just to know what to expect? Dave, perhaps you could measure the torque needed to bend a key that you know has been properly annealed? I'm thinking something like clamping it in a vice, and then attach an arm of known length to it which is then weighted down at the end until the key bends to a certain angle (like 45 degrees)? The weight would then be proportional to the torque needed to bend the key (provided the arm used is strong and light, so that it contributes as little as possible to the bending torque). |
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Michael Clifton Loyal user 214 Posts |
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On Mar 19, 2018, MadisonH wrote: Yep..same here too
Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right!
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emyers99 Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 4741 Posts |
Got my batch of 100. Played with a few of them last night. They are definitely bendable, but even with my hand strength (I've bent a few thousand forks and nails in my time), the best I could do was a 90 degree bend. So your mileage will vary depending on your spectator. Probably best suited for an average male spectator, although I'm guessing few will get it to 90 degrees. As I said above, I use Steel all the time and love it. The nails require similar hand strength to this but the one difference is that the nails are longer than a key and therefore allow for better leverage to get bigger bends.
Overall, both great products if you will use them. The hardest part of both Steel and these keys is telling the real item from the bendable item. So pocket/prop management is important so you don't get them mixed up. |
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MonsterMagic Special user 517 Posts |
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On Mar 20, 2018, emyers99 wrote: I keep the non-bend on a key ring so it won't get lost or mixed. It is also very natural to remove it and hand it out. |
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