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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
Not sure if this is a new release or not but just purchased it from Penguin.
I'll post my thoughts soon. http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/9726 |
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barts185 Inner circle Can you believe I've been wrong on 1355 Posts |
Does it have to involve your mouth? I am not a fan of putting things into my mouth to then hand out as souvenirs.
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Dave the Knave Regular user Cochise County, Arizona 163 Posts |
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On Mar 23, 2018, barts185 wrote: Nope. It's an alternative for the Mercury Fold. |
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rosariorose9 Inner circle Kreskin guessed that I had 1158 Posts |
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On Mar 23, 2018, videoman wrote: I do a fair (but not a great) Mercury Fold. Very interested to get your thoughts on this variation. |
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Magic from A to Z Elite user Sweet Home Alabama 482 Posts |
The video doesn't show much...
What's wrong with slightly scoring the card before performance? That seems to me to be a rather easy way of doing a Mercury Fold... Just a thought... ~allen |
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randyburtis Inner circle 1256 Posts |
The card fold didn't look square... you could see exposed indexes... Can the fold be done so nothing of the card index is prematurely shown?
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btwigg Loyal user Sacramento, CA USA 203 Posts |
I am horrible with A Mercury Fold. If anybody reviews this I would appreciate it very much.
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
I've watched this now and tried it a couple times to get a feel for it. Overall, I would say for the price it's a good value as I found a few ideas in addition to the fold itself to be of interest. The video is 18 minutes long and also comes with a PDF which describes the method in print also. I like this combo of video and written instructions and wish more creators/producers would offer this.
Obviously if you already do a very good MCF then there is probably not any reason to bother with this method unless you're a card move junkie and aren't familiar with it already. The big selling point with KFC is that it difers from the MCF in that it can be accomplished while handling the cards in a pretty typical manner. IOW, no misdirection is required as with the MCF. The spectators can be burning your hands the entire time and if done properly will have no idea how or when you accomplished the fold. In the video there are a couple live performances, a demonstration of the fold itself, and then a few ideas on how Michael likes to use it. Interestingly, the fold itself only takes up probably less than 2 minutes of the video. I felt he could have gone over it a couple more times in step by step action. But the PDF does help to fill in any areas you might not be clear on. To answer a couple question...you do NOT need to involve your mouth. That is simply one way of reealing the folded card but virtually any routine that requires a MCF could be done with KFC as well. The disadvantage to pre-scoring a card is that you either have to score most or all of the deck, or you have to force the scored card. Both KFC and MCF are going to require practice but I do think KFC is probably easier to master and get an even fold. It can be done pretty slowly allowing you to give more attention to the neatness of the folds. Haven't played with KFC enough to make a final verdict but I'm going to mess around with it some more and my guess at this point is that I may switch to this after trying to learn the MCF for a while. But maybe not, I need more time to see. There is one section of the video where Michael is teaching a bonus idea which his card in tin box that uses a gimmick. This gimmick doesn't work too well because he normally does it with a folded bill but is using a folded card this time since that is the subject of this video. Changing the gimmick from a bill to a card doesn't really work very well (it should have been modified for the card) and causes some problems. I won't give Michael too much grief about this but as someone in the video field I just never understand why someone wouldn't try it first before filming and make any changes necessary before committing it to a recording. For the record, this is a download only and gimmicks are not provided (or needed.). The one gimmick used in the video is a bonus item so the gimmick is only shown but not included, which is totally fine with me. Oops, forgot to mention that this folds the card into quarters. It can be done very neatly with enough practice. Michael credits as inspirations the MCF in Expert Card Technique of course, but also the Two-Second Card Fold from Tommy Wonder, and Creased Lightning from John Bannon. Overall, I'm glad I bought it. It gave me some ideas to think about and try in addition to the fold, and the fold itself is good IMO and something I may very well use. YMMV. |
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randyburtis Inner circle 1256 Posts |
Good to hear the fold can be neat. In your opinion do you think to get a neat fold with KFC will give it with less practise than equal effort given to mcf? I do an ok mcf but neatness of fold is my main concern as I don't get it 25 to 30 percent of the time with my mcf
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dooblehorn Inner circle Pittsburg, CA 2474 Posts |
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On Mar 23, 2018, randyburtis wrote: Randy, I also just bought this, and in answer to your question, ABSOLUTELY! I've had trouble getting the MCF down properly; for me, this method is way easier with the same result, and more likelihood of a neat fold. For me, it was completely worth the price. |
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magicbrady Regular user 133 Posts |
Hey all, Just curious... why the concern with having a perfectly folded mercury fold? As long as it get's folded quickly and in the box or wherever it's headed I'm happy. Are you doing performances where neatness of fold is a priority?
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
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On Mar 23, 2018, magicbrady wrote: It's for those routines where the MCF card is being switched for another pre-folded dummy card, which is a very popular way to use it. The pre-folded card is usually in a container of some sort and these days that container is often clear, giving the spec a much better view of it. So even though an exact match is not necessary, it helps if it is as close to the pre-folded card as possible. Plus, a neatly folded card adds to the deception because it simply doesn't appear as if it could have been folded quickly or surreptiously. |
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MagicallyMe Veteran user Manhattan Beach, CA 356 Posts |
The description above is accurate and well done!
Funny thing is that I had swapped emails with John Bannon this week a about Creased Lightning Again and sadly there were no video instructions. Then this came out. If you don’t already do a MCF, this is certainly worth learning. And Michael did give credit to Mr. Bannon. |
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Poof-Daddy Inner circle Considering Stopping At Exactly 5313 Posts |
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On Mar 23, 2018, videoman wrote: I agree and would like to address the mentions (as well as the methods) to pre-scoring the card. While this method, done freehand or with the couple products on the market for "perfect lines" - To Me - lead to more questions than answers. Rather than buying one of these products to do mit for me, I have used a metal ruler and an exacto knife to make a very light score that makes the MCF not only easy but fast and perfect. The problem is... now you enter the "Too Perfect Theory". MCF signed cards are pretty much made to pass out as an impossible memory. It doesn't take a CSI team to notice the perfect cuts at each fold where a "Properly done MCF" leaves a lot of the folds unbroken (uncut). If you put the time into learning a proper MCF (as well as a few of your older decks), you will not need any of these aftermaket helpers or alternative folds. Like anything else, practice practice practice (but practice properly).
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MadisonH Inner circle 1752 Posts |
I must say I feel quite confident in my MCF
But I did buy KFC to see if it offered an alternative with more pros than cons. As it stands, I’m not sure yet. Don’t get me wrong, KFC is a great move! And it is all done while they burn your hands during the action of the trick. For these reasons, I will play around with it more (I’ve already gone through about 40 or so cards practicing the move.) The thing I’m perhaps not as keen on is that the move is actually broken down into two steps. For some, that’s an advantage. For others, it’s a disadvantage. MCF lets you get it done in one fatal swoop. This one is more of a two step process. Also just a note: this actually Folds the cards into fourths but in the opposite way of a MCF (meaning longways first.) Again, this can be a pro or a con. What I like most about this is there’s no need to turn the deck face up to do the fold. Also with KFC The Control and the fold are done in the same moment. Overall, I think it should be viewed as a variation on the MCF and should be used interchangeably. I will definitely be practicing it though. Madison |
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mike donoghue Inner circle 1295 Posts |
Been doing a Mercury Card Fold for many years & used it last night several times & will be using it all weekend.
Don't really need another way to do it BUT I am curious & have a feeling I will check this out. Sure it's very good. Mike Donoghue |
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Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5925 Posts |
The move is good, the teaching is complete. The HPC move with the folded card is a great visual!
I agree that it is awkward to have things failing and fumbling while teaching the move and routines. Won't keep you from learning this, but it detracted from the quality of the presentation for me. Also peculiar is saying, "That move isn't mine so I won't go into detail on it." after just having shown a FULLY EXPOSED quick run through of the move. I'll just add that practicing this is much more fun than just jamming through cards practicing the MCF. Between learning this move and a couple nuances in routines taught, this is worth investing in. |
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btwigg Loyal user Sacramento, CA USA 203 Posts |
I need some of those 808 Seconds decks.
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12945 Posts |
It's just a different way to perform a mcf.
It has the same challenges as the other way I think. Come out crooked the same. I think the original has more cover. I guess I've been doing it so long I won't change or even put time into changing. That's just me. I have other things I want to learn. If the performer can't do it flawlessly then can I? Should have shot it over. J |
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jskalon Special user Shorewood, IL. 869 Posts |
Is this similar to the extreme mercury card fold
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