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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2889 Posts |
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On May 1, 2018, tommeepickles wrote: I agree with everyone that this is probably the greatest single book on street performing there could be. I also agree with you that $60 for a PDF... well, bytes! Maybe after Christmas... assuming I have any money left.
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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Eric Evans Special user Rio Grande 668 Posts |
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On Nov 11, 2020, TheAmbitiousCard wrote: I’ll have a go, I’ll take it. PM me your price and it may take a few days but I’ll get you. |
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
Sorry Eric. It was sold.
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Maxyedid Special user Panama 843 Posts |
Here is a review of the book by Jamy Ian Swiss:
https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic-......ee-magic
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Riley Special user Swansea UK 955 Posts |
^ "...grammatical tradjedies, spelling disasters,..."
The illustrations alone are worth the price of the book. Ignore the typos. All books ( and reviews) have them. I treasure my copy. |
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tboehnlein Inner circle ohio 1787 Posts |
Swiss obviously has some concerns with buskers as a whole, I guess sometimes you have to look beyond the grammar and concentrate on the content. I do not have this book but I do have Dreamers Highway and return to it often.
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3528 Posts |
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On Dec 24, 2020, Maxyedid wrote: Tl:dr ... Jamy Ian Swiss, probably the most persnickety elite of all magic writers, gets all twisty on the much beloved Richard Sullivan (aka Cellini); orphan, dropout, street performer who spent his formative years of 15-18 in a youth prison, and derides his writing, his typos and the poor attributing/ crediting within his book. Forgive me if I give Cellini a HARD pass on these faux pas' and concentrate on the material in general... Quote:
"You can almost always pick out a street worker when you bring him inside into a theater—he's the one screaming and carrying on and beating the hell out of his audience like he's afraid they're going to walk out any second. There are very few performers who successfully make the transition from the streets to inside... Many of these acts never quite tame down enough to be around civilized company... Yeah... Go ahead and blow me, Professor Swiss.
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3528 Posts |
Just to stick the knife to Mr. Swiss a bit more -he goes on, at length, like a dummy, about "E.M' McFalls...
Quote: ... when even a cursory bit of research would have shown that this is, in fact, the "nom de plume" of (also very much self educated) author Eileen McFalls, who was Cellini's partner and fellow traveler for some years back in the day.
The book is written in first person so we have no idea who E. M. McFalls is, or for that matter if he even exists as other than perhaps a nom de plume of Dick Sullivan, i.e., Cellini himself. Hence Cellini, as it were, describes his early experiences busking in Colorado... C'mon, Swiss, if you're not gonna give proper attribution where it's due you're a bit of a trash writer, aren't you? PS- something tells that Cellini and Swiss weren't good buddies. Frankly, I doubt Swiss ever even met him. For him to use the very informal "Dick" (a name Cellini never went by as far as I know) is just rude, arrogant posturing in my opinion.
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Eric Evans Special user Rio Grande 668 Posts |
Gaddy, I don't think the level of vitriol you exhibit above is warranted. While I understand your viewpoint I don't appreciate your lack of respect for a fella you don't even know. Much like what you criticized Mr. Swiss for by not knowing details of E.M. McFalls. (Sidenote: when The Royal Touch was originally published there was virtually no internet. Finding out who E.M. McFalls was would have been a major pain).
Swiss was harsh to be sure, but there's no doubt there were a few problems with Cellini's book which laid it open to criticism. I don't think Swiss took the necessary time to understand the totality of Cellini's work after finding a few flaws and subsequently writing it off, but he's a critic, that's what they do. He called it as he saw it, and rendered his opinion in an honest and overall civil manner. I'd hope the same from you. |
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3528 Posts |
Eric,
Thanks for your perspective. I respect your opinion and I appreciate that you took the time to call me to task on what you feel was unjust. I thought I simply tempered my response to match Mr. Swiss. I mean, Swiss basically called him a liar and a cheat, if not an outright thief (for not giving proper credit for effects) he also called him a... well, not a Richard. He then implied that street performers weren't fit to be around civilized company, and went on further to suggest anyone who bought the book was a sucker! Wow! That was a lot of trash talking for a simple book review... I might be reading too much into it, but his "compliments" regarding the illustrations even sounded rather back-handed as well... I didn't find his tone to be civil at all, but I'll try to remember your sage advice in the future. Thanks.
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Eldini Regular user Las Vegas 127 Posts |
I appreciate the civil discourse and respectful yet candid discussion of disagreements here. This is especially important and often forgotten when we are all on the same side. I wish the rest of this forum (and the world) would take note.
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Nickoli Sharpe Regular user Worldwide 160 Posts |
I read this book a couple of months ago and could barely set it down.
In fact I sent her a email thanking her for writing the book. This was a very fun book for me to read do to the fact that I had worked many of the places she talks about. Now I loaned the book to my brother in law (that is not a Busker) He did not enjoy it as much. So maybe you have to be a Busker to appreciate the writing.? So my thoughts about Swiss’s review, yes it was harsh and I don’t agree. He should hit the streets for a season and then give a review. I would recommend the book to any open minded free spirited person. Nickoli |
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DrVG Loyal user 268 Posts |
Hi, may I ask for your help regarding the cb crashcade gimmick referred to on page 178?
I have a rough idea of it from the routine description but would like to know more. Thanks VG |
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Eric Evans Special user Rio Grande 668 Posts |
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On Jan 21, 2023, DrVG wrote: Sure, tried to message you privately but the buttons gone. What do you want to know? PM me if you can |
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