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asimagu
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Hi friends

Does anyone know of any rope switcher device?? I would like to do a routine with two ropes, first I would do a trick with the first "normal" rope and then I would end my routine with the help of a gimmicked rope. I would need to switch them at some stage, of course.... So I thought that in the same way that some people marketed some card decks switchers, maybe there is something there in the market to switch two ropes....

any help and comments will be much appreciated Smile
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In Spellbinder's "Anti-Mirror Glass" e-Book in The Wizards' Journal # 16, he included his "TIPS" jar that Wiz Kid Qua-Fiki used in his rope act for switching ropes. The idea is that you collect bits of rope from a cut and restored rope trick in the TIPS jar, since you don't seem to have much luck collecting money, and in the course of using it, you can switch one rope for another.
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It also helps that TIPS is SPIT spelled backwards, which adds some humor to the act! When the jar is turned around, you can see the word SPIT bleeding through the paper label on the front of the jar, and also see that the jar is empty (or just has a few rope bits in it). You can buy the jar in a Dollar Store and gimmick it yourself per instructions in the e-Book.
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I have a good size mirror glass from Supreme Magic that I use to switch ropes and silks. At the end of the presentation the gimmick is stolen behind the ropes or silks.
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If you wear a coat it is possible to switch ropes with a sleeve/behind the back arrangement and some thread.

I don't recall what book I read it in back in the 50's - but it worked well the one time I used it.

You can probably figure it out. The act of seemingly stroking the rope changes it as the connecting thread pulls it out of one sleeve and up the other.
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Chris Philpott's The End of My Rope trick starts off with an ungimmicked rope which is then cut and restored. In doing the trick, you accomplish a switch of the rope.

I don't know if that will help or is what you are looking for, but it is one option.

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On Apr 24, 2018, asimagu wrote:
Hi friends

Does anyone know of any rope switcher device?? I would like to do a routine with two ropes, first I would do a trick with the first "normal" rope and then I would end my routine with the help of a gimmicked rope. I would need to switch them at some stage, of course.... So I thought that in the same way that some people marketed some card decks switchers, maybe there is something there in the market to switch two ropes....

any help and comments will be much appreciated Smile
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On Apr 24, 2018, asimagu wrote:
Hi friends

Does anyone know of any rope switcher device?? I would like to do a routine with two ropes, first I would do a trick with the first "normal" rope and then I would end my routine with the help of a gimmicked rope. I would need to switch them at some stage, of course.... So I thought that in the same way that some people marketed some card decks switchers, maybe there is something there in the market to switch two ropes....

any help and comments will be much appreciated Smile


Hola Senor Asi!

I start my rope routine with the classic "One Two One" rope that the late "Gen" Grant sold about 50 years ago. It's gaffed. When it does what it's supposed to do, I just toss it in my prop case. After my illusion routine, I just grab an ungaffed rope from the case. Rope is rope! I don't claim that it's the same rope, amd NO ONE has ever questioned it, in 50 years. I may be wrong, but, I think that you are running when no one is chasing you.
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On Apr 24, 2018, asimagu wrote:
Hi friends

Does anyone know of any rope switcher device?? I would like to do a routine with two ropes, first I would do a trick with the first "normal" rope and then I would end my routine with the help of a gimmicked rope. I would need to switch them at some stage, of course.... So I thought that in the same way that some people marketed some card decks switchers, maybe there is something there in the market to switch two ropes....

any help and comments will be much appreciated Smile


Hola Senor Asi!

I start my rope routine with the classic "One Two One" rope that the late "Gen" Grant sold about 50 years ago. It's gaffed. When it does what it's supposed to do, I just toss it in my prop case. After my illusion routine, I just grab an ungaffed rope from the case. Rope is rope! I don't claim that it's the same rope, amd NO ONE has ever questioned it, in 50 years. I may be wrong, but, I think that you are running when no one is chasing you.


Love the simplicity
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Yup! Qui nimis probat, nihil probat! (He who proves too much, proves nothing!)

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I've been wondering the same thing. I'd like to begin with PN then switch to Ring-on-Rope. I thought of moving the rope behind my prop case, switching, and draping one end of the new rope over the front of the case while I take the ring out of the case and display it. All of that in one smooth motion, the rope out-of-sight for just and instant. Then picking up the visible end of rope and moving on the second part of the routine.
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Why bother switching? I use the long PN rope (mine is about 48") for ring on rope routine.
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Why the need to switch ropes? Don't you have all you need at the end of Professors nightmare? Just put away the "extra" ropes and hold back what ever you need as you put away what you don't.

If for some reason you want to be "really fair" and have a spectator end with just one piece of rope (that they hold onto), then have the ring in a bag. Reach in to get the ring, rope in hand, and... well, you get the idea...

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I've been wondering the same thing. I'd like to begin with PN then switch to Ring-on-Rope. I thought of moving the rope behind my prop case, switching, and draping one end of the new rope over the front of the case while I take the ring out of the case and display it. All of that in one smooth motion, the rope out-of-sight for just and instant. Then picking up the visible end of rope and moving on the second part of the routine.
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Asimagu, actually this is brilliant. Your whole idea. Because that is the ideal to use a gimmicked rope, and exchange it for regular ...

one idea is to put the gimmick rope in a change bag, with a knot and try to make it disappear. it does not. then you realize you used the wrong magic word. it then visibly disappears. you actually switched it in the change bag. Of course, it would be less suspicious if you used a change bag made from something like a paper bag, or a cloth shopping bag.
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COUNTRY MAVEN: It is >>>NOT "BRILLIANT"!<<< You are cluttering up the EFFECT.
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Mr. oslund, if you have nothing good to say, please refrain and do the MC a favor. I think you were so quick to post something negative that you did not seek to understand the post.
I was not saying my idea was brilliant, ok? I was saying the original idea of a clean switch is brilliant. Sometimes, and most often, an imperfect idea leads to something better.
I want to work with gimmicked ropes but switch them out. In a very clean way. Not in the way I mentioned, which was someone else's idea.

I was referring to the whole idea of a clean rope switch as being brilliant. I am starting to work with Pavel's ideas in ropes.
As of today, I already have an ultra clean rope switch that I developed. This proves what I said. Often an initial idea may be quite flawed, but it may be the first step to something great. Almost all good inventions share this. An imperfect beginning, but the creative mind and work can make up for this and come up with what you are looking for.
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I read your comment. It is not worth my time to reply.
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I apologize I take back the way I said the above. Again please accept my apology you are a great experienced magician.

But I do have a point .
If a post is about a new method that does not exist, please give the people posting some breathing room.
The creative process requires some poor ideas as a starting point. Then the creative process takes over and you
often come up with something great. so if a post is about something new, I just ask magicians to keep this in mind.
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I read your comment and it couldn't be worth any less of my time to reply.

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I read your comment. It is not worth my time to reply.
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On Dec 17, 2018, countrymaven wrote:
I apologize I take back the way I said the above. Again please accept my apology you are a great experienced magician.

But I do have a point .
If a post is about a new method that does not exist, please give the people posting some breathing room.
The creative process requires some poor ideas as a starting point. Then the creative process takes over and you
often come up with something great. so if a post is about something new, I just ask magicians to keep this in mind.


Switching two pieces of rope in a change bag is definitely not a NEW concept. --Especially when it is not necessary to create an EFFECT. Any experienced performer KNOWS that.

I accept your apology. I don't ever hold grudges, but, I do remember who created the problem,

I have never considered myself a great magician. I've had the privilege of knowing a few great magicians, and, many great magicians have known me.
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Thank you friend Kaliix, for your comment!
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I hope everyone here has a great Christmas. I never thought that switching a rope in a change bag was good magic or something new. I came up with rope switches I have never run across. That is what I was referring to.

I will try to be more careful with how I word things here. We would be having a good time in a magic club, I am sure. But somehow, posting things that are part of an unclear creative process leave options open for people to try to pick a post apart rather than to help. It it just the nature of the precision of words written versus the multifaceted creative process they represent.
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