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Wizard of Oz
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I am primarily a collector and hobbyist, and have noticed an increased velocity with the posts here at "Tricks & effects for sale or trade." I realize this post will/may be moved. I'm okay with that.

I'm posting this question as a non-political query and asking, what are we creating for this art? And then what are we selling? This is purely a conjecture thread, and not one that I hope leads to controversy. I would simply like to have my finger on the pulse of magic, and know where it is heading.

In magic, what is magical?
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The experience.
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B.W. McCarron
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On May 3, 2018, WitchDocChris wrote:
The experience.

This. Something that stirs a response with the audience. Otherwise, we're simply repeating the "Show 'n Tell" segment we sat through in grade school.
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All of creation IS Magical. If we can frame that , it is good.

Not all Magic performance is Magical. Some is just entertaining (but just entertaining can be fine).

Basic effects can be Magical if they produce wonder.

To feel I've seen Magic, I have to feel wonder.

-Mary Mowder
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Although there is a 'con' part of magic's past, nowadays I hope many of us are offering FUN with astonishment! Lynn
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I think each of us has to present the "tricks" we ourselves find magical -- the ones that delight us even though we are manipulating the secrets. If you love the tricks you do and want to share them as if you are a gift to the audience, you can't go wrong, whatever your style.
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I am with Mary and B.W. in that there must be something more on awe&wonder side than just skill demo or "for entertainment." I even tend toward "affect"

However, with an average audience or gathering of friends, it is difficult to gauge what will prod that result or internal flutter,
especially if any are distracted, inebriated have a hidden agenda or unfamiliar with magic.

So, I never perform just one trick (effect), and never "on demand."

My first is a lead in to get focused attention and introduce the idea that something unusual will occur. Them I pause to allow the group to pull together (or not)

My second is to establish that I am a magician, i.e. my presence/involvement is necessary for the wonder to occur.

The third (and possible multi-phase) is selected to meet the level of attention and expectation of magic for this particular group.

In short, I make sure the three Furst Principles are in place, and do not continue if they are not. I train the observers to expect magic to occur - and it does.


I agree with Plunk's sentiment, but think "ourselves find magical" is to vague. Any effect can be magical for the right audience, and no trick is magical if the observer does not desire it.
Saying "presentation" is the key makes assumptions about the audience. Yes, "you can't go wrong" - but it won't necessarily be magic.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst

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