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JoeJoe Inner circle Myrtle Beach 1915 Posts |
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On May 23, 2018, Dannydoyle wrote: No, it is not the end of the discussion ... many vegans are divided on several issues, including insects. Some vegans will not eat honey like myself, because even though they come from flowers it is technically bee vomit. Some vegans will not eat mushrooms because they are technically not "plants" while other like myself will. Just like anything else, there are gray areas. I don't have a problem eating insects, I do not consider them "animals". Animals are covered in "fur" - insects are not. -JoeJoe
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Are fish covered in fur? Are birds? Are reptiles?
This is the problem with making up your own definitions. Regardless of your own justifications insects are classified by the world at large as animals. The definition of vegan is not about animals feeling pain, it is about using animals as commodities.
Danny Doyle
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WitchDocChris Inner circle York, PA 2614 Posts |
Snakes don't have fur - are they not animals?
Plants respond to damage (pain), and will communicate danger to neighboring plants when damaged. Gorillas eat meat, btw. It's just not a major part of their diet. Things in nature eat anything that seems like it might just be food. Or, in some cases, because said thing in nature likes how the thing they are about to eat makes them feel. I read an article a while back about jungle cats eating magic mushrooms, seemingly specifically to get high. Farmers in my area have frequently told me about cows eating the grass and grains around a silo that have begun to ferment and acting drunk. Now, I personally don't care what you or anyone else eats. I generally like finding people who eat differently to me so I can try new foods. But there is no truth in the idea that a vegan diet in inherently healthier. A conscientious diet is healthier - whether it includes meat/dairy or not.
Christopher
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JoeJoe Inner circle Myrtle Beach 1915 Posts |
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On May 23, 2018, Dannydoyle wrote: Everything in nature is covered - trees are covered in bark, fish are covered in scales, birds are covered in feathers, animals are covered in fur, dirt is covered in grass, human beings are covered in skin (that's right, we are NOT "animals"). Insects are covered in "setae", stiff hair-like bristles. I'm not sure what you would call the covering on reptiles, it seems to be something of a cross between skin and scales. Either way, I don't consider reptiles to be "clean food" but I've never had the need or desire to eat one so I haven't researched that. -JoeJoe
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JoeJoe Inner circle Myrtle Beach 1915 Posts |
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On May 23, 2018, WitchDocChris wrote: Everything in nature is food for something else ... one day, we'll be eaten by worms. Today, the worm eats the bird ... tomorrow the bird dies and the worm eats the bird. The worm and the bird are the same. "We are all one". That is why it is important to respect what we eat, something that is seriously lacking in the world that we live in today. There are many great reasons to be vegan other than your own diet or animal suffering ... research it. -JoeJoe
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JoeJoe Inner circle Myrtle Beach 1915 Posts |
Check this one out ... people don't even know that "sausage" comes from a living breathing animal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZF_HNRpIA0 -JoeJoe
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JoeJoe Inner circle Myrtle Beach 1915 Posts |
And when you are ready to see why you should hunt your own meat instead of the grocery store, just watch this video from Paul McCartney ... the "factory farm" did not exist a hundred years ago, it is not like it used to be, we have been lied to - the pictures they put on the boxes are lies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql8xkSYvwJs -JoeJoe
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JoeJoe Inner circle Myrtle Beach 1915 Posts |
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On May 23, 2018, JoeJoe wrote: That should read "today the bird eats the worm, tomorrow the bird dies and the worm eats the bird" ... typo. -JoeJoe
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Joe Joe again you can't make up definitions. Humans are animals and so ate insects. You can't redefine science. Sorry.
Danny Doyle
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magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
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On May 23, 2018, JoeJoe wrote: Insects are animals. Not plants. |
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
Will a Vegan eat a Venus Fly Trap?
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magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
Sounds like we've got a Vegan who wants to be a meat eater- and I can prove it.
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On May 23, 2018, JoeJoe wrote: Three words to prove that you're wrong here: Sa Shi Mi |
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On May 23, 2018, Senor Fabuloso wrote: But that's hardly surprising: morays are eels: meat. |
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On May 23, 2018, JoeJoe wrote: Why's that mindblowing? Dogs have been bred to be omnivores. Show us the YouTube video of wolves pulling carrots out of the ground and eating them. Or Jackals doing the same. Or Hyenas. Or Dingos. Or Fennecs. |
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On May 23, 2018, JoeJoe wrote: What you consider them isn't really relevant; they're certainly not vegetables, so anything that eats them certainly isn't a vegan. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Vegan is a Native American word that means "bad hunter".
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
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On May 23, 2018, JoeJoe wrote: No. Animals are not covered in fur. Mammals are. Reptiles are Animals, birds are Animals, fish are Animals, Corals are Animals, insects are animals. It matters not what Vegans are divided on. It is Zoology. |
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JoeJoe Inner circle Myrtle Beach 1915 Posts |
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On May 23, 2018, S2000magician wrote: If you want to get technical with words, "vegetables" do not actually exist. Vegetable is culinary term used by chefs, it does not actually identify anything in nature. http://www.tlc.com/tlcme/botanists-are-s......y-exist/ -JoeJoe
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
I am a vegetarian not because I love animals, but because I hate vegetables (childhood incident: giant broccoli, bad clown).
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