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liamwilson1125
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Guys, do you have any favourite method to control the selection to the top of the deck?

My 2 favourite ways would be using the 2nd deal (I can clearly show the selection as 1 card then deal the 2nd to lose it) or tripple lift (as I can the top card after I lose the drag card). I don't really shift or palm in my performance as I don't feel confident when executing those moves.

Hope can find some good methods here. Thank you all Smile
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Overhand shuffle control
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Breather crimp
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Crimps are great but I prefer Jog Shuffles. The key is for them not to know so no matter what you use you need to do it about 500 times so they will be clueless when the move is done. Practice is the way to do it choose a few like I have & go to work..
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Paul Le Paul's Automatic In-Jog Control
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On May 31, 2018, J Christensen wrote:
Breather crimp


Both Breather and reverse Breather are great, but I used to be in a situation where the spectator shuffled and examined the cards, and he threw the Breather card away =))
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On May 31, 2018, MorrisCH wrote:
Overhand shuffle control


Good idea, you just remind me Hindu Shuffle control (Asian style) Smile
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Paul Le Paul's Automatic In-Jog Control


Hi there, thanks, is this explained in Card Magic by Le Paul?
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For sure , the losing control from Lee ASHER !
A real fooler ...
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For sure , the losing control from Lee ASHER !
A real fooler ...
Pascal

No doubt, but for me it's a bit awkward when doing the reverse spread. Only my opinion though Smile
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Double undercut followed by a false shuffle if the selection was replaced in the top half of the deck, or double cut to the table followed by a false shuffle if it was replaced lower down.
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Liam, yes it is.
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Double undercut followed by a false shuffle if the selection was replaced in the top half of the deck, or double cut to the table followed by a false shuffle if it was replaced lower down.


Thanks Craig, that's simple and yet still fool laymen though.
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Liam, yes it is.


So it does explain in the book? Thanks, I will look it up again.
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I find the TPC to be very practical. It's in Sonata, by Juan Tamariz.
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I find the TPC to be very practical. It's in Sonata, by Juan Tamariz.

Thanks Ricardo, I will have a look.
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I'm a bit of topic here, don't want to detail the thread, but regarding performing for magicians vs laymen, this is indeed dangerous. My partner thinks Dr Daleys Last Trick is a much, much trick than an ACAAN (Asi Wind's). Magicians know the transposition effect and don't bat an eye, but the ACAAN reaaaaaally stirs them up.

To come back to the thread, I prefer controls where the card apparently goes into the deck and stays there. If you have already demonstrated for a person any kind of manipulative ability (e.g., any location effect or ACR), they know that you can control a card while the deck is apparently shuffled. It is almost insulting to presume the spectator does not get that you can shuffle a card to the top, bottom, or wherever.

The only time shuffling and cutting are warranted after replacement of a selected card is if the spectator does it themselves.

Double undercut and false shuffle...? I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous. Most lay people are not that dull and do not really believe for a second that that double undercut (to the approximate position of their card in the deck) served to really lose the card in the deck. Drives me nuts.

So I aim to use controls that do not appear to be controls - like the TPC and DPS, convincing control (Earick variation and others), tilt, and so on.

The first chapter or so of Jerry Andrus Card Control contains some really quite excellent ideas which can be applied to the your card magic, even if you don't use the techniques directly. At least the Clivot principle is invaluable for moves like the TPC and DPS. To be honest, I haven't read past the first couple chapters yet, so maybe the whole book is like that Smile
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Been "ridiculous" for about 80 years!! - Doing double undercut and overhand injog shuffles to "lose" a selected card. What's even more "ridiculous" is that nobody over all those decades and all over the world has thought for a moment that his or her card wasn't hopelessly lost.

I do love what you prefer, Yowie --- definitely agree that you stick to those preferences - and/but I'll stick to mine!
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Oh, also should have made it clear that I've done close-up card stuff over the years for people like Mel Brooks, Carl Reiner, Dick Cavett, Steven Sondheim, Mayor Mile Bloomberg, David Frost, Anne Bancroft, Johnny Carson, Merv Griffin, Mike Douglas, David Susskind, and on and on. Poinr? I don't do many "pick a card" things (if you'd read some of my books you'd know that) but when I do - I most often (other than when I've forced or peeked the card) use a double undercut and overhand injog shuffles - and you can be sure that the sort of people I've mentioned would sure let me know if they thought their card was not really hopelessly lost. To each his own!
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