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Ihop
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I usually have Extreme Burn, Fire Wallet, bill switch, disappearing silk,bill breaker, a few coin tricks.
Anything besides a card trick.
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I carry my Grandpa's coins. He always had them with him and he played a game of 'pay attention'. So I share his game if someone wants to see something.

It's not always about being a trained monkey doing tricks or getting money for the time; when I play that game with someone, I can still hear my grandpa and that is special for me too.
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I use Rostami's "doodle" for some mentalism ...
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I never leave my house without Sponge Rabbits. There is an unlimited amount of things you can do with them. You will not need a table. The only thing you will need is a pocket to carry them around in.
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While I kind of understand the attitude of "I'm not a monkey - don't ask for tricks," I think it is the wrong attitude for this topic. If you perform for a living, I would expect you to be able to at least show why you get paid for your work. If someone asked me to design a steel framed building (engineering student at the moment), I wouldn't do it, but I would at least show a couple of the steps that go into the initial decision making process to give them an appreciation for what I do.

In the magic world, I see no reason to give away the A material, but I also see no reason to turn someone down. I mean how often do people respond to any mention of magic with "oh, my uncle used to do a trick," or "magic is for dorks," or similar comments? If they are actually showing interest, do you want them to leave with the impression that magic is apparently for elitist snobs and nobody else?

At the very least, vanish and reproduce a coin.

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On Nov 13, 2018, Mr. Woolery wrote:
If they are actually showing interest, do you want them to leave with the impression that magic is apparently for elitist snobs


No I want them to go away with the impression that magic is an art form. And like other art forms, is something to be respected. Not thought of as something their uncle can do or something for dorks. Anyone can do a trick but only a magician, can do magic. That's the point of not performing, like a trained monkey.
No matter how many times you say the wrong thing, it will NEVER be right.

If I'm not responding to you? It's because you're a TROLL!
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No I want them to go away with the impression that magic is an art form. And like other art forms, is something to be respected. Not thought of as something their uncle can do or something for dorks. Anyone can do a trick but only a magician, can do magic. That's the point of not performing, like a trained monkey.


I was touring an art museum once. There hanging, were some works of Picasso and the tour guide was telling of his life. The guide said that Picasso would meet new people and sometimes take a napkin or scrap of paper and do a quick doodle or characture for them. Was he lowering or disrespecting his art? Did he cheapen it?
I can understand not doing something for someone that has seen other things you have done and says do a trick every time you see them, that does get annoying. I think one needs to take into consideration of the 'who' that is asking for something.

Since each of us is a different person, what's right or wrong for me in this aspect will be different for what's right or wrong for you. Neither of us is wrong from our own experiences and perspectives.
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Before Picasso was known for his work, I would venture to guess, that many of those napkins found there way into the trash. Besides it was his choice to do the doodle and I'm sure wasn't EXPECTED. Magic on the other hand has a connotation, that because it's fun and playful, we as magicians must want to do it? After all when uncle Harry comes over, he always wants to do a trick. This is what I have tried to combat in my refusal to do magic on command. However, if advantageous to me or my place of employment, I have been known to comply occasionally, with a proper request.

My point is simply and absolutely, for me and me alone, is that to jump through hoops on command is something I take great offense at. It is also something I try to discourage in others for the benefit of the art and all of us. But of course people are free to do tings, in the way that works for them.
No matter how many times you say the wrong thing, it will NEVER be right.

If I'm not responding to you? It's because you're a TROLL!
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Good points - but - ou don't accept pm's????????????Hope your not too "righteous"??
Senor Fabuloso
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You are able to send me a pm now Russo.
No matter how many times you say the wrong thing, it will NEVER be right.

If I'm not responding to you? It's because you're a TROLL!
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I wonder if there’s a regional or cultural difference going on. For me, if someone asks for a trick, what I interpret is “how interesting it is to meet a magician! I want to share in some of what he loves doing!” I don’t perform professionally, but I enjoy performing magic. I suppose if you don’t know any impromptu material you could just say you don’t have any of your props with you, but I hate to squelch any interest. It seems counterproductive.

Maybe where you live, Senor, it is a way to increase respect by refusing to do a trick. That’s fine. I just find magic so fun and exciting that I love to share that excitement with other people. My view is that the best way to get people to respect my skills (at any sort of activity) is to show that I really do know what I am doing.

Patrick
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I usually do ACAAN or chicago opener.
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I'm not sure of the name but I saw someone doing a trick once and went home and quelled something out. It's an ace transposition. Starting with just 4 aces. Showing the red ace and placing it in their hand, then the other red ace. Then a bit of banter and bang, the red aces have jumped over here and they've got the black ones. It really seems to hit them hard and I love it because of that. And it's technically so simple I can give the performance everything!
Paul Gordon had a version but mine is actually less difficult to do! Smile
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Those who think that magic consists of doing tricks are strangers to magic. Tricks are only the crude residue from which the lifeblood of magic has been drained."
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I'm usually doing the classic Dai Vernon's Twisting the aces with a bizarre twist (Paul Harris) for a proper ending.

I should thank Jason England for this idea he got from Derek Delgaudio.
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From an earlier thread on the same theme --

"the fact that someone asks if you can show them a trick by no means requires you to do so -- at least not on their terms.
When Nate Liepzig quipped, "I am not an organ grinder monkey" he did not mean that he would not perform, only that he would do so when convenient to him.
There is no situation in which you are not prepared -- only the question of how to get prepared in flow with character and planned effect."

Senor adds the notion that performing magic is different than "doing a trick," yet, "a trick" may be what they want. Do you know?

I prefer doing magic rather than tricks, but might do a trick under certain conditions. I do not do "requests" of either type. I might tell a story instead.

I avoid performing unless I am reasonably certain that the conditions exist for magic to happen in the mind of the observer.
So, in any gathering I am looking for clues as to what magic effect might be appropriate in case I am asked.
Since I favor effects using "found objects" I am always able to do something incredible - but rarely do any more.

If a person interrupts our conversation to answer a cellphone, for example, I will not perform a magic effect for them. They lack the focused attention required for my effort.

Just me. The key is to be prepared before the asking. Saying, "Yes," "no" or "maybe later" should not be knee jerk response.
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...If a person interrupts our conversation to answer a cellphone, for example, I will not perform a magic effect for them. They lack the focused attention required for my effort...


So very true.

It is becoming more common and what seems to be socially acceptable to have the cell phone out, texting, Snapchating, etc. other people while out, instead of enjoying the actual time with who they are with.

Perhaps the newest way for table hopping... make YouTube videos of magic tricks, walk to the table and set a card down that has the YouTube channel on it so the interruption is very brief and doesn’t interfere with their texting?
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On Dec 30, 2018, Wravyn wrote:

Perhaps the newest way for table hopping... make YouTube videos of magic tricks, walk to the table and set a card down that has the YouTube channel on it so the interruption is very brief and doesn’t interfere with their texting?



I suggested something similar a decade ago on this very Café'. With a larger iPad or such, a whole menu of magic routines could be available.

Just discover the interest of the table, select the "best possible performance with music, etc" and turn it on. Join in the applause and gather the tips.
No practice required and no endless purchase of new items. Since most spectators will never have seen a live magic effect, they may not notice the difference --
and their attention span is limited to what is on a small screen already.

One could even sell thumb-drive "Magic Kernels" for those wishing to take the experience home.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst



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Agree with many of the thoughts here. My goal in magic is to deliver good experiences to as many people as I can. So if someone asks me to perform, I almost always oblige.

- With the cards: Ambitious Card; Two Card Monte (the one that David Blaine performs); Search & Destroy
- With the coin: simple vanish
- With the wallet: Extreme Burn; card to wallet.
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If I have a deck of cards I perform ACAAN
Theo
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Dai Vernon's 'Out of Sight Out Of Mind' with a borrowed, shuffled deck is a killer.
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